Talk about your quick reactions! This team is nothing if not decisive at times. Other times it is not, but this is not one of those times. Ryan Langerhans has been designated, Jesus Colome has been brought up and the 11-man pitching staff is over with. I would like to hope to tack on a "for now" to the end of that last sentence, but I doubt it is so.
I don't get the timing of this either. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt that Colome is available for today's game. That means the Mariners just voluntarily reduced themselves to a 24-man roster for a game for no benefit. They could have waited until after the game to make the move and it would have cost them nothing. Furthermore, that would have bought them time to see how Fister's start goes. Maybe he tosses seven innings in a few hours and the pen gets saved and the pressure to expand the bullpen gets reduced.
I support almost every single major move this team makes, but boy some of the smaller ones are real head-scratchers.
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ANGRY
OlSalty - April 8, 2010
I'm not sure they've abandoned the 11-man pen
But I don’t think we’ll see it again until the rotation is at full strength (if it gets there).
Sportszilla - April 8, 2010
This is an inauspicious start to the season
Bearskin Rugburn - April 8, 2010
what nooooooooooo
Jeff Sullivan - April 8, 2010
If Langerhans is vultured my faith in the belief system will be shaken
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
Can someone clarify this for me?
By designating him for assignment they have 10 days to do one of the following- Release, trade, or waiver him. So they can’t sign him back to the Minors? After they designate him, he’s pretty much gone?
mariseanerhawk - April 9, 2010
Not necessarily
We can assign him to the minors, but he needs to pass through waivers first. If no other teams claim him, we can then keep him in the minors.
OlSalty - April 9, 2010
Thanks!
Now to hope no one takes him.
mariseanerhawk - April 9, 2010
Oh goody, right as I posted something that heavily involves the presence of Langerhans.
I guess this only strengthens my point, but my god go away go away go away Mike Sweeney.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
This team has a lot of faith in Doug Fister and Jason Vargas
Matthew - April 8, 2010
Well shit
lailaihei - April 8, 2010
Boooooooooooooooooooooooo!
I’m gonna be so upset if someone takes Langerhans.
SethGrandpa - April 8, 2010
I'm not really hearing enough anger here, people.
Be more entertaining.
Eyebrows - April 8, 2010 via mobile
I can't muster real anger as I'm too busy mustering gallons of serious concern.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Well said.
Decatur - April 8, 2010
I'll be the guy booing Sweeney on Opening Day.
Is that enough anger?
Sec 108 - April 8, 2010
If he ever even plays
OlSalty - April 8, 2010
Injure him. Do it for all of us.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
What the fuck does Mike Sweeney give you that is so irreplaceable?
BrianL - April 8, 2010
Handies
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Really swell American Idol contests...
tait644 - April 8, 2010
I hate Mike Sweeney.
InSpokane - April 8, 2010
Mike Sweeney, late-game defensive replacement outfielder
Teej - April 8, 2010
Mike Sweeney is fucking up our limited chance of playing October baseball.
EnglishMariner - April 8, 2010
Jesus, and Griffey as well.
EnglishMariner - April 8, 2010
No need to bring Jesus into this.
Can’t blame the Jews for everything.
harkening - April 8, 2010
I think he was just pointing out they were the same age.
InSpokane - April 8, 2010
Honestly, the guy I'm pissed at is Griffey. Sweeney at least looks like he has something left at the plate.
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
I have to agree with this statement.
Junior thinks he can still play, and has shown absolutely nothing to support that opinion. Sweeney thinks he can still play, and he busted his ass and kicked the fuck out of the entire Cactus League. As irrelevant as ST stats are, there seems to a serious difference in effort being put out by Grandpas 1 and 2.
Matt Erickson - April 8, 2010
Why don't we give Sweeney a chance to hit?
Now I want to see Griffey being benched.
Ef the yankees - April 8, 2010
Because Sweeney isn't good at baseball.
He hasn’t been since 2005.
BrianL - April 8, 2010
Griffey also has been a suckfest for 3 years?
I mean, why not giving a chance to the younger one, you know?
Ef the yankees - April 8, 2010
They both suck, Milton should be DHing
and left field should be a Langerhans/Byrnes platoon.
BrianL - April 8, 2010
What he said.
Matt Erickson - April 8, 2010
Ho-boy. We're giving him a chance in a couple of hours.
Lineup per Drayer
Ichiro
Figgins
Gutz
Bradley
Sweeney
Lopez
Tui (1B)
Moore
Wilson
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
Gotta justify the move somehow eh
Bearskin Rugburn - April 8, 2010
He better go 3-4 with 3 Grand Slams
Corco - April 8, 2010
And then dealt while his trade value is so high.
harkening - April 8, 2010
4-5 with 4 Grand Slams
The fifth at-bat should be a sac bunt. That would increase our annoying factor.
E-Lizz - April 8, 2010
A sac bunt isn't scored as an AB.
So he’d really have 6 PA. The Mariners offense isn’t going to get anyone 6 PA.
harkening - April 8, 2010
They will if they get enough guys on base to have 4 grand slams,
abender20 - April 8, 2010
If we hit 4 grand slams, we'll probably be going around the lineup a few times.
E-Lizz - April 8, 2010
Disaster.
InSpokane - April 8, 2010
Apparently they think Fister is going to K about 15 today...
tait644 - April 8, 2010
Has Tui ever played 1st?
I don’t remember him being out there during ST
Corco - April 8, 2010
He played it a couple times
Matt Erickson - April 8, 2010
In the minors.
He’s only logged time at 2B and 3B in the bigs.
harkening - April 8, 2010
That's fine then
Corco - April 8, 2010
What? Tui instead of Kotch?
OlSalty - April 8, 2010
Against Brett Anderson, a lefty. It's less nutty.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Ryan Garko :(
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
For serious
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Mike Sweeney :(
Poochie - April 8, 2010
No shit.
thehemogoblin - April 8, 2010
Less, but it clearly means they don't intend to try Sweeney in the field
OlSalty - April 8, 2010
Wow
Weird lineup. Understandable though. Junior looked incompetent against a bad rookie RH pitcher yesterday. No point in having him humiliate himself against a good LH today. And Kotchman has looked a bit painful against lefties….
Matt Erickson - April 8, 2010
Doucher isn't a rookie.
Kirk - April 8, 2010
And isn't bad.
Mariner John - April 8, 2010
He's probably talking about Ross
In which case the inaccuracy in the above statement is he isn’t bad.
sammy - April 8, 2010
Is this evidence that Sweeney can't play 1B anymore?
tait644 - April 8, 2010
No
It’s evidence that Sweeney can hit lefties better than Griffey and that Tui can play first better than Sweeney
Matt Erickson - April 8, 2010
Sweeney(1B)/Byrnes(LF) >>>> Tui(1B)/Bradley(LF)
tait644 - April 8, 2010
How do you figure?
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Because then you're effectively replacing Tui with Byrnes in the lineup
and Byrnes destroys lefties
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
Byrnes career wOBA against lefties: .366
Bradley career wOBA against lefties: .396
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Bradley remains in the lineup as DH
Tui is the one left out.
tait644 - April 8, 2010
Right. Whoops.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Fister being a FB pitcher
And Byrnes being the better LF, I’m willing to take a little hit at 1B. Plus, Byrnes gives more offense than Tui.
tait644 - April 8, 2010
We need evidence?
harkening - April 8, 2010
WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS THIS
seattlebruin - April 8, 2010
This seems... suboptimal
seattlebruin - April 8, 2010
This isn't to say that Sweeney should be on the team either.
I’d rather both of them were gone and Dye or Delgado, or christ, even Sheffield in their place. I just think that out of the two, Sweeney seems willing to earn his job, and Junior seems happy with cashing his $2.35MM.
Matt Erickson - April 8, 2010
I second this
If Dye can play 1B in a pinch, he’d be pretty ideal. Spell Kotchman, get a few ABs against LHPs at the DH spot as well.
tait644 - April 8, 2010
I agree with that
Surprised no one has really gone after Dye, I think he’d be a good fit.
E-Lizz - April 8, 2010
Oh the humanity!
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
One of Griffey or Sweeney needs to retire now.
BrianL - April 8, 2010
Our 4-man bench (against lefties, at least)
2 DHs, a catcher, and an infielder who isn’t a good infielder.
tait644 - April 8, 2010
Byrnes
okdan - April 8, 2010
It sure does
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
God I wish I could rec this.
Eyebrows - April 8, 2010 via mobile
Parenthesees are our friends
tait644 - April 8, 2010
A curly brace killed my father, so I'm a bit sensitive.
But point taken, I didn’t read it properly.
okdan - April 8, 2010
And parentheses are cool, too.
russak - April 8, 2010
Good thing we h ave Mike Sweeney
Corco - April 8, 2010
Baker's recent post says that Colome is available for today's game
so this move makes a little more sense at least
Zack - April 8, 2010
Geez.
They must have called him and told him to pack his bags halfway thru the game last night.
Matt Erickson - April 8, 2010
I can't imagine why he wouldn't be
They probably made the decision last night and it’s a pretty quick flight from Denver to Oakland
Corco - April 8, 2010
Or Seattle!
Corco - April 8, 2010
And only $39.00 on Southwest.
InSpokane - April 8, 2010
It makes sense though
A 6 man pen is a great idea, but it doesn’t really work unless you have a legitimate 5-6 inning reliever of which Kelley and Texiera are not.
Corco - April 8, 2010
The bringing up a reliever part makes sense. The making the guy that is provably better than both Sweeney and Griffey go away part is fucking retarded.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Oh I completely agree there
Corco - April 8, 2010
I know we needed another reliever, but shouldn't it have been a leftie?
mariseanerhawk - April 9, 2010
It makes sense when your 4th and 5th starters aren't pitching 2nd and 3rd
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
Well, that was fun while it lasted.
ThundaPC - April 8, 2010
FUCK YOU GRIFFEY
Poochie - April 8, 2010
FUCK YOU SWEENEY
Poochie - April 8, 2010
Surely you mean Sweendog
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
FUCK HIM I AM THE DOG
Poochie - April 8, 2010
I thought you were the racist
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
Who is the raciests?
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
I AM A RACIST DOGG
Poochie - April 8, 2010
No I think that was Marmaduke
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
HOW CAN I MISS YOU, GRIFFEY, IF YOU WON'T GO AWAY?
abender20 - April 8, 2010
X
Poochie - April 8, 2010
This is funnier than the time you created this image!
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
IT WAS ALWAYS FUNNY
Poochie - April 8, 2010
This shit is beyond terrible
Robert - April 8, 2010
GIRFFEY IS LITERALLY THE WORST PLAYER IN BASEBALL BUT AT LEAST HE IS OURS
FUCK YOU AND GO BACK TO KC MIKE SWEENEY AND NEVER RETURN
THIS TEAM IS BETTER THAN THIS
Poochie - April 8, 2010
There's that anger!
Eyebrows - April 8, 2010 via mobile
Rob Johnson?
abender20 - April 8, 2010
I know the move sucks, but...
trying to take a step back, how big a deal is it that our 5th outfielder was kicked to the curb? How many wins could we have expected him to contribute over Sweeney? I mean, even if someone gets injured, we still have Saunders in Tacoma.
sammy - April 8, 2010
Hey look I just made a fanpost about something like this.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Sorry, didn't see that.
sammy - April 8, 2010
It's a decent deal
Matthew - April 8, 2010
I'm pretty whelmed by the size of the deal in fact
Matthew - April 8, 2010
2009 Mariners shock smart fans by properly valuing defense.
2010 Mariners shock smart fans by forgetting 2009.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Especially since he is a better hitter than our starting DH
Poochie - April 8, 2010
Yup.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
THAT MOVE SHOULD MAKE ITSSSELF
Poochie - April 8, 2010
Even if you believe that Langerhans is a .311 wOBA, Langerhans-> left and Bradley to DH is 13 runs.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
This is a seperate issue that is much more worrisome.
sammy - April 8, 2010
It's not really separate though, total value from the roster spot is what counts
OlSalty - April 8, 2010
What I mean is
if Griffey’s gonna get 450 PA at DH either way, I can’t imagine the marginal difference between Langerhans/Sweeney is huge. That Griffey is going to get those appearances is the real issue.
sammy - April 8, 2010
So what you guys are trying to say is that we won't be going to the world series correct?
Robert - April 8, 2010
I am trying to say there are a couple of speedbumps on the road to the World Series
Also, Griffey’s giant ass.
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
That's just one of the speed bumps.
the other side - April 8, 2010
Jesus fuck Kansas City just trade for Sweeney already.
BrianL - April 8, 2010
Or put him on the on DH forever.
InSpokane - April 8, 2010
I hope you meant DL.
Eyeball Kid - April 8, 2010
Yes. That is what I meant. I got distracted by work.
InSpokane - April 8, 2010
Or LL is distracting you from work.
russak - April 8, 2010
That's what I thought the plan was??
Utilize his large spring as a trade incentive. Give the Padres him and some one else for Adrian Gonzalez. The Padres have been entertaining offers, and Adrian satisfies both our defense posture and our power need. Just a thought though. Maybe in a perfect world, but not this one.
mariseanerhawk - April 9, 2010
I don't think Mike Sweeney is going to be part of a trade for Adrian Gonzalez
Aaron Campeau - April 9, 2010
Happy birthday, Felix.
Sorry your party’s so lame.
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Michael Scott, The Office
tait644 - April 8, 2010
Oh yeah that's right
Sweet.
Robert - April 8, 2010
.
msb - April 8, 2010
Tear a labrum
Poochie - April 8, 2010
SHUT UP YOU FUCKING MUTT
abender20 - April 8, 2010
DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU JUST DID?
abender20 - April 8, 2010
Wished Griffey to finish his illustrious career on the DL?
Poochie - April 8, 2010
That's Felix.
Eyebrows - April 8, 2010 via mobile
Felix is number 34
Poochie - April 8, 2010
I'm with Poochie on this one
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
They're both darkies
Poochie - April 8, 2010
Well
http://twitter.com/shannondrayer/status/11835854636
Eyebrows - April 8, 2010 via mobile
IT'S HIS 24TH BIRTHDAY AND HE'S WEARING THAT TO CELEBRATE YOU LOUSY PUG
abender20 - April 8, 2010
x
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/4/8/1411383/colome-up-langerhans-out#34147584
Poochie - April 8, 2010
Subthread hidden!
Poochie - April 8, 2010
Oh god he's already 24
Dewey N - April 8, 2010
That's Felix you colorblind mutt
Matthew - April 8, 2010
THAT'S FELIX FUCKING HERNANDEZ ON THE MOUND
BrianL - April 8, 2010
You can clearly tell that it's Felix due to the angle that his bulge hangs at.
Robert - April 8, 2010
Well, personally, I was going to say "based on the lack of boo-tay"
msb - April 8, 2010
Shouldn't you be busy letting Scrappy violate you right now?
Decatur - April 8, 2010
You're both dogs, after all.
Decatur - April 8, 2010
Man fuck this place
Poochie - April 8, 2010
You guys might all be pissed at him
but I bet Sweeney’s pretty happy that Jesus is coming.
pmc47 - April 8, 2010
And we all know how far that got Kurt Warner this year.
They both need to go retire to some church in the desert…
ExiledToSoCal - April 8, 2010
See, making digs at people based on their religion is not a good thing here.
Eyebrows - April 8, 2010 via mobile
I was meaning it more like they both are sucking and would enjoy each others company in a place they would like.
But I was trying to cut back on the coffee today and the brain is almost non functional.
ExiledToSoCal - April 8, 2010
My mental signalz
Are picking up vague visions of Ryan Langerhans hitting a three-run walk-off homerun on June 8th.
ThundaPC - April 8, 2010
In Tacoma.
Eyebrows - April 8, 2010 via mobile
For the Pittsburgh Pirates.
srm07 - April 8, 2010
;we ;eiw ;w;iwe gr'u 'twee' grj e' e[r3c 0it
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
Oopsie
lemonverbena - April 8, 2010
Yes?
SethGrandpa - April 8, 2010
I like this post.
Kirk - April 8, 2010
This is actually kind of annoying
seattlebruin - April 8, 2010
Is Wakamatsu really gonna let Griffey get another 450 PAs?
Despite appearances and how we used Griffey last year, it’s hard for me to accept that this is the actual plan for the year.
sammy - April 8, 2010
Stupid.
Goose - April 8, 2010
THE FUCK!?
BigR - April 8, 2010
You guys we're just trying lure the competition in to believing this is the path we are going.
Calm down. It’s just a ploy.
Kirk - April 8, 2010
I just realized that this means we're going to see even more of Eric Byrnes.
DAMN YOU JACK Z!!!!!!!!!!
Goose - April 8, 2010
We Mariners fans are way too good at this whole negativity thing.
the other side - April 8, 2010
In happier news,
Adam Moore is back in the lineup today, which means whatever happened yesterday wasn’t serious.
http://twitpic.com/1e3g8m
magistermilitum - April 8, 2010
Ryan Langerhans
Would be a Hall Of Famer if he was in the Most Mistreated League.
The guy just cant catch a break.
Slica - April 8, 2010
Hey guys what's going on in this thread?
(FUCK)
tootthekazoo - April 8, 2010
Meanwhile...
The M’s put up an announcement for Griffey bobblehead night on their website. That’s why they’re keeping Griffey. All I can say is, if you go for the bobblehead then you’re encouraging bad roster moves.
Pretty sweet lookin’ bobblehead, though, with a model of the Dome and all….
Suburban Shocker - April 8, 2010
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