
Greg Fiume - Getty Images
Digging the awkward poses in the back
I'm not going to sit here and tell you that the season's over. This was one loss, and no single loss can ever end a season unless it actually leaves you mathematically eliminated. It's May 13th. Losing today doesn't mean a whole lot more than losing yesterday, and there are still another 128 games to go.
What this does do, though, is provide a handy landmark. A point that, should the Mariners fail to recover from their current slide, people can refer back to as the day we knew things weren't to be. In theater, seasons don't end with a whimper. They end with a bang. They end with drama and excitement. The Mariners just had their day of drama and excitement, and they got it in the shorts.
If the Mariners finish with an irrelevant 70 wins, we'll all be able to reflect on today as signifying their last gasp. They gave it their best chance - they gave it everything they had - but it wasn't enough, and they fell. It's not the most accurate way to tell a story, but it isn't inaccurate, and it's compelling, and so it is to be that, if the M's keep on struggling, today will not soon be forgotten.
On the other hand, if the M's suddenly catch fire and pull themselves back into this thing, everyone'll then be able to look back on today as a different kind of turning point. The day that made the Mariners mad, the day where the players all rallied together and made a commitment to playing the kind of baseball the were supposed to be playing. Today's game already happened, but its narrative significance will only be determined by the events that come next.
Funny how that works.
- Lots of anger directed Mike Brumley's way for getting Josh Wilson thrown out at the plate to end the game. For those who missed it, Ichiro grounded a single through the hole to left with two out and men on first and second, and Wilson rounded third to score, but Patterson came up with a good enough throw to get him nailed.
First thing to understand is the breakeven point. Using a little win expectancy math, we get an even 50%. If Wilson scores, the WE% jumps by 24%. If Wilson's out, the WE% drops 24% to zero. What this means is that, for Brumley to wave Wilson around, he has to be 50% sure that Wilson will score.
And me, I don't think he could've been 50% sure. You expect a guy to be able to score from second on a two-out single, definitely, but the element that those who missed the game don't realize is that Patterson was playing Ichiro very, very shallow. I was surprised to see how close he was when he retrieved the ball, and as soon as I saw that, I thought, oh no. Patterson doesn't have the best arm in the league, but he has a decent one, and he was throwing from a fairly short distance.
As it happened, the throw was a little off-line. Still, it beat Wilson home by a significant margin, and Wieters had plenty of time to make the catch and move into position. There was nothing Wilson could've done. Even a mediocre throw had him dead to rights.
I don't like what Brumley did. It's important to realize that, if he holds Wilson up, we've got Chone Figgins batting with the bases loaded against a guy who's fairly wild. It's not a great position, but it's a decent one. Hold Wilson up and you figure we've got at least a one-in-three chance of tying the game. Brumley went for the glory, though, and he got burned, because he either didn't realize how shallow Patterson was playing, he underestimated Patterson's arm, or he overestimated Wilson's speed. The eighth inning meltdown will command the bulk of the attention, but that was one hell of a demoralizing way to record the last out.
- Brandon League has been used five times in six games. Shawn Kelley hasn't pitched since Sunday. I feel bad piling on Wak for using League here, but the Mariners were up 5-1 against a bad team and their win expectancy stood at 95%. He didn't have to use League again.
Still, the reason you save League is because you expect League to be good, which made the eighth inning so much worse. He didn't necessarily deserve that fate, given the Rob Johnson fumbled strikeout and the fact that the pitch Luke Scott crushed was inches outside off the plate, but that was as poorly-timed a bad outing as it gets for a team in our position. You can't blow a late four-run lead against the Orioles. That is a killer. That is an absolute killer, and these guys are going to have one miserable flight down to Florida.
- Yes, Adam Jones reached on another swinging strikeout that got away from Rob Johnson. With League's tendency to throw two-strike pitches in the dirt and Johnson's complete and utter inability to not suck for one second of every single god damn day that he breathes the world's air, I'm thinking this'll develop into a trend. Look for League's strikeout rate to be inflated.
You know what's annoying? Almost as annoying as Rob Johnson's inability to catch or block a flipping baseball? Mike Blowers coming to his defense. Yes, Mike, it is hard to catch a baseball. Catchers' gloves are weird. But Rob Johnson, you see, is a professional catcher. Lots of things are hard. You expect experts to be able to do them. That I can't snowboard doesn't mean I'd excuse Shaun White if he fell down getting off the lift.
- Worth noting that Scott's grand slam just barely left the yard. Michael Saunders had a chance to bring it back and would've at least knocked it down were it not for the outstretched arms of a few fans in left field. At the time, it looked like those arms might've stretched into the field of play, but I was admittedly biased and blinded with rage. Still, that's a replay I'd like to check out. If this is Baltimore's revenge for Jeffrey Maier, they chose a weird time to call it in.
- The Mariners have played 34 games. They've scored eight runs in the first inning. Worse, they've scored four runs in the second inning. The combined Mariner + Mariner opponents OPS for the second inning is like .540. Stop. You hear that? That's the sound of something really important.
- Ryan Langerhans drilled an opposite-field double, but the big story - and the delightful story, right up until the bottom of the eighth - was Michael Saunders turning in another splendid performance. His day:
First AB: Called strikeout, good job by Millwood pounding him inside
Second AB: Ten-pitch showdown. Fell behind 0-2 on two low-inside sliders, took two balls, fouled off four tough inside pitches, took a ball, lined a hanging slider into right for an RBI single
Third AB: Got ahead 2-0, fouled off a high fastball, pulled a similar slider to the one he singled on deep into right for a line drive home run
Fourth AB: Swinging strikeout where Alfredo Simon put two changeups in the perfect place down and away
A couple weeks ago, Saunders was batting like .025 in Tacoma, and there was concern that he was pressing. He was having good at bats, but he wasn't getting results, and he was visibly and admittedly frustrated to all hell. Then he caught fire and he carried it over following his promotion, and right now Michael Saunders of all people is having arguably the best at bats on the team. Saunders' confidence has to be through the roof.
It feels so good to see this from an underrated player that we've developed in-house. All that disappointment we felt late last summer is out the window, as the experience seems to have worked to Saunders' benefit. He can't go away when Bradley returns. He can't. There's no way. If anything, he deserves a regular job.
- Saunders hit a home run today. Corey Patterson hit a home run today. The same fan got both balls. They weren't hit to a deserted section, either - they were pulled above the big scoreboard in right, to an area where dozens of people were standing and milling around. Somewhere there is a 60 year old who has been going to baseball games all his life who is going to kill that fan in his sleep.
I wonder if that fan can play catcher.
- On April 23rd, I was encouraged by Casey Kotchman's lack of groundballs. Since April 23rd, Casey Kotchman has hit 62% groundballs.
- Miguel Tejada has a good strikeout face. He smirks, and he winks, in what's either a playful "you got me this time" kind of way, or a terrifying "I am literally doing everything I can to keep this bottled up before I murder somebody" kind of way. I bet he's a real treat in the clubhouse.
- In the bottom of the second, Luke Scott lifted a foul pop-up that Jose Lopez chased after and hauled in with his back to the plate. For all of the crap that I and others have been giving Don Wakamatsu this season, we should remember that Jose Lopez wouldn't be a third baseman were it not for our manager. Of course, one must also wonder if the position switch is in any way related to Chone Figgins' inability to get hits and Lopez's inability to not have an OPS in the low .500's, so I suppose we don't have to chalk this up as a win if we don't want to.
- Two things that bother me about Mike Sweeney are that he has a batting stance like a child and he looks like he's too big for his uniform. Very good to see him take a ball deep, though, especially going the other way, and this is just the latest bit of evidence that he has a lot more left in his bat than Griffey does. Which is problematic. Sweeney's the one who might, in some way, have just a little bit of value, and Griffey's the one we can't ever cut.
- We've seen two Ichiro power swings in two days. They've led to a double and a homer. He's batting .348 with an .834 OPS. Ichiro's offense is a white noise machine.
- Finally, this wasn't the best day Felix has ever had, but it was a hell of a recovery after the last two times out. He was a lot more himself, and it showed, with the groundballs, the timely strikeouts, the lack of solid contact, and the swagger. I was concerned that he might come a little unglued in the fourth when a Rob Johnson (Professional Catcher) mistake and a bloop single put a run on the board, but instead he bounced back by retiring eight of the next nine hitters he faced. The Orioles had five at bats with a runner in scoring position in the sixth and seventh innings, and they went hitless, because Felix busted out some wicked offspeed stuff and kept the ball in good spots.
Last week, I was worried. I'm not so worried anymore. About Felix, anyway. I am worried about the team, but even that should fade away once we drop far enough out of it that things stop being sad and start being hilarious.
I put it up in the other thread, but since you mentioned it here, say hello to two people visibly interfering with Saunders in the field of play.
abender20 - May 13, 2010
Got I hate umpires.
TheBishop - May 13, 2010
Saunders and Langerhans didn't appeal though, and neither did Wak.
EnglishMariner - May 13, 2010
Wak doesn't appeal anything ever.
It kind of pisses me off.
SethGrandpa - May 13, 2010
Neither of these people are Jeffrey Maier or his relatives so let's cut the head off that joke before it's beaten to death
pdb - May 13, 2010
Was just going to add this
Thanks.
Baseball!
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2010
The still seems damning
But I can’t get too upset because, having seen the replay now, I just can’t see the umps looking at it and seeing conclusive enough evidence to overturn the call on the field.
drblacknwhite - May 13, 2010
They could always have husseled out there and made the call as it happened though.
But Joe West would have died of a coronary and then died again when the game got delayed to drag his corpse off the field thus slowing down the pace of play.
TheBishop - May 13, 2010
Also of note is that Saunders fell down on the play. It isn't clear from the video whether he just hit the wall hard,
or was knocked off balance when his glove struck two cretins.
abender20 - May 13, 2010
Is a repost appropriate?
Definitely can remove it if not.
wilsonpdx - May 13, 2010
I laughed... and rec'd
First time I have laughed since I checked the Nyjer Morgan thread before the game!
seattlesundevil - May 13, 2010
Beauty
Jeff Sullivan - May 13, 2010
Fantastic
Goose - May 13, 2010
Is anyone keeping track of how many runs Rob Johnson has given up this year by not catching?
Because I know it’s got to be hovering around 10 now. I know in the home opener RRS gave up 2 more runs because Rob Johnson couldn’t catch strike 3 with 2 outs and I know that’s not the only time.
SethGrandpa - May 13, 2010
Luke Scott is quickly becoming the new Rafael Palmiero.
Can we just go ahead and trade for him so I don’t have to watch him drop bombs on us anymore?
TheBishop - May 13, 2010
More than the DH situation
the tolerance of Rob Johnson, who seems far easier to make go away, makes me really angry.
Dids - May 13, 2010
Saunders attempt
Janic - May 13, 2010
Fuck.
TheBishop - May 13, 2010
Yeah...he had no chance of catching that...
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
SethGrandpa - May 13, 2010
I'm almost positive he would have caught that.
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
I know.
SethGrandpa - May 13, 2010
I think it was too long. Look where the ball hits the guy's hand.
Would have been a great catch though, and it was really close. I need to get 3 feet away from an HD plasma to know for sure.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
Yeah, the ball hits the guy's hand right above where Saunders' glove would have been had it not hit the white guy's right arm
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
Oh yeah I think your right! I'm only looking at the .gif, so I wasn't sure.
I think his timing is good and his glove is in the right spot. Bringing it down is difficult when you crash that hard into the wall though.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
But he at least would have brought the ball back in to the yard (probably)
Which could have limited it to a bases clearing double (tying the game)
seattlesundevil - May 13, 2010
On a postive note, it was a very athletic play, and a well-timed leap.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
Yup... That's a catch if not for the fans.
But he also did appear to reach in to the stands
seattlesundevil - May 13, 2010
Typically I would say "if nobody argues, it's a good call"
But Wak’s odd belief that he can’t argue things kinda ruins that.
I mean, argue a call, get tossed. The slight chance we one day get a call that goes our way is worth it relative to the cost of not having you on the bench.
Dids - May 13, 2010
But if Wak's not on the bench who would mismanage the bullpen?
SethGrandpa - May 13, 2010
It seems like, especially in that situation, an appeal just makes a crapload of sense.
I mean, what do you lose by not appealing? Wak is such a timid manager.
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
Yeah, why not? Is there any legitimate reason to not try? Maybe it didn't even cross his mind.
Like using Shawn Kelley after 5 days off never crossed his mind. I feel like half the people in this thread could manage the bullpen better. Maybe Wak needs to play some baseball video games in the off season?
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
Hargrove would have argued that until it started snowing
Wait, I guess that doesn’t help in our case.
Edgar for Pres - May 13, 2010
I still think it would have been a tough grab, it looks to me like his glove is just a tad late in
getting to the ball. That being said, Saunders is in the zone right now, and it wouldnt have shocked me if he pulled it back
Rudy4three - May 13, 2010
There is really a lack of accurate depth perception here as well
But I still think that sans fans, that’s a catch.
seattlesundevil - May 13, 2010
I think part of the reason it looks late is because it gets caught on the black guy's hands
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
RAGEAHOL
lemonverbena - May 13, 2010
Bum deal
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2010
This literally broke my heart
Seeing this again…
Stormton - May 13, 2010
It's not of high quality but it can't hide Saunders' dreaminess.
russak - May 13, 2010
They're standing in the middle of the aisle
Cantu Easley Winn - May 13, 2010
That's a fire hazard!
pdb - May 13, 2010
It's never a fire hazard if you are flammable and have legs
Nick S - May 13, 2010
I don't understand the Mariners' absolute insistence on keeping incompetent people in the organization
Johnson, Brumley, Griffey, Sweeney, Colome, White. It’s like they just don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, and would rather just flush the season down the toilet. Yes, yes, yes I understand all the explanations. But I just don’t get WHY. So many times this year, the M’s have had the opportunity to do things to make themselves a better team, but they’ve continually chosen the worse option. Sad…
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
By this year to you mean decade?
TheBishop - May 13, 2010
If Bavasi was still in charge of the organization I'd be impressed and praising him for not making only stupid moves.
The M’s have made some smart moves since the season began, though they’re starting to get outweighed by all their dumb moves. Or, should I say, all their dumb non-moves. Honestly, Brad Nelson would make a helluva better RH DH than an old guy that has obviously been bad for four or five years. It’s like their day-to-day talent eval went down the shitter when ST started.
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
Because they saw the players as people and couldn't say no.
Chemistry doesn’t matter much when evaluating a player. Good chemistry comes from winning. I think the only chemistry that can be attributed to team success is bad chemistry, which can have a real impact, whether it be compounded by losing or bad attitudes throughout the team (usually mitigated by winning). No one cares about a guy’s presence unless he’s average/below average. Above average players get a pass. I think they were choosing between below average players and decided to take the veterans and their “presence.” It’s not hard to imagine a scenario where Brad Nelson isn’t producing.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
I'm starting to feel that Wak may not be up to the task
He bought into his own “belief system” rap so much that he keeps Sweeney, Griff and Wrong Johnson around in the face of all available evidence. His bullpen management is for shit. Etcetera. I’m not a “fire the coach!” kind of fan but ours just isn’t inspiring confidence.
lemonverbena - May 13, 2010
Agreed
It almost seems like he feels as if cutting a player that is underperforming would send some kind of bad message to the rest of the players, like he doesn’t trust them or something. And yet, the fact that it seems he’s had a totally free rein to screw things up so regularly almost makes me wonder if he isn’t getting similar treatment from up above. That is, that his superiors don’t want to step in and say, “Here’s how you be a manager” because they don’t want to “break his confidence”, or some shit.
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
Unfortunately it's hard to single a player out on this team.
Sure guys like Figgins, Moore, and Johnson may be in our long-term plans, but it would be tough for a guy like Chone to watch people get cut knowing he is secure because of his contract, not his performance. On the other hand, we should just start making bold moves now that we are already losing.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
Not bold moves, sorry, OBVIOUS MOVES that Wak or Z apparently don't want to make.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
Figgins is secure because of his track record of performance
His contract would make it difficult to cut him if Z wanted, but I doubt it has even entered his mind.
Torjazz - May 14, 2010
I've been stewing over some of the same thoughts all day. It would appear parts of the organization has a clue.
There’s been too many moves for positives in player acquisition. Seems to be breaking down at the manager level, and I’m not talking about Chone getting off to a cold start with the bat issues. Your sentiment about not being a ‘fire the manager type’ and the rest, that’s pretty good. I’d really like to know what’s going on between the Blengino side and the scouting/manager side of things.
Kermit. - May 13, 2010
There totally are reasons to keep Johnson, Brumley...Sweeney, Colome and White in the organization
They aren’t blocking anybody with more talent than them. Its ok to be angry but if you want to be angry, just be angry and don’t try to blame people who didn’t cause the problem.
Edgar for Pres - May 13, 2010
Is this sarcasm?
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
Not really
I think its backlash to people complaining about players on the team that are playing just like we thought they would. If you lived in Seattle and complained every day it rained, wouldn’t your friends get annoyed?
If you are angry that Rob Johnson et al suck then point your blame away from players who are playing like they were projected and towards the FO that decided to put these players on the team.
Edgar for Pres - May 13, 2010
With all due respect
I’d encourage you to read my original post again. I’m pointing my blame precisely at the front office. It’s obviously not the players fault that they suck. I’m wondering why the Mariners insist on keeping them on the team despite no evidence that they can produce (offensively or defensively)—or even loads of evidence to the contrary.
Johnson could be replaced by Bard, who at the very least could actually catch pitches. He couldn’t possibly hit worse. Colome should have been replaced with Kelley, and should be replaced with Lowe when he returns. White should also go, and leave the M’s with a 6 man bullpen. Sweeney should go when Bradley comes back, and if he doesn’t, that will be yet another example. Brumley… well, he should go learn how to actually do his job. That, or drive his car off a cliff.
These are all solutions within the organization itself. I’m sure marginal upgrades could be made through little trades, though those aren’t exactly necessary since there are options from within.
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
You are right, I didn't read your post correctly
Edgar for Pres - May 14, 2010
It's all good.
We’re all frustrated. This season sucks. Such a big buildup, followed by such a big letdown. :(
Matt Erickson - May 14, 2010
Is Wak still angry at Shawn Kelley for horsing around with Lowe during ST?
I cant understand why Kelley is so underappreciated by this organization
Rudy4three - May 13, 2010
I had completely forgotten about that
I wonder if that is part of the issue. With all of the inexplicable things that Wak has done all year, this wouldn’t surprise me
tootthekazoo - May 13, 2010
That wouldn't surprise me. It's all way to personal with Wak.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
I'm not necessarily stating that I believe this is the case with Wak, though I belive it isn't outside the realm of possibility
But I think that a manager that makes personnel decisions based on his personal opinion of that player (his character or personality, not necessarily ability or talent) needs to lose his job. It would be completely unacceptable to play one player over another because you like him better or get along with him better or think he’s a nicer guy. I think A-Rod is one of the world’s biggest twats, but I’d definitely play him over most third basemen in the league, regardless of how awesome that guy might be. Talent must transcend temperament.
Matt Erickson - May 13, 2010
Talent must transcend temperament...
…only if winning is your top priority! :-P
NWade - May 14, 2010
My hopes for this team aren't quite dead yet.
But they are sitting in the dark, drinking vodka and cleaning their guns while listening to Johnny Cash.
JAH - May 13, 2010
My hopes haven't gotten past putting on their Morrissey records yet
stupid hopes
pdb - May 13, 2010
My hopes aren't dead yet, but in order to be restored to preseason levels the entire Texas Rangers team needs to go down in a plane crash.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
Harsh
Cantu Easley Winn - May 13, 2010
Well maybe they all have full recoveries, but it takes a few months?
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
I have a plane...
But honestly right now I’m so bitter about some of our own players that I’d rather take them up and shove them out before I took up any Rangers… I mean, what did the Rangers do to me? Nothing! The Mariners definitely have done something to me, and I don’t like it!
NWade - May 13, 2010
How did Johnson screw up in the 4th?
I remember at one point he framed a pitch that was in the strike zone so poorly that it probably deceived the umpire into calling it a ball.
_David_ - May 13, 2010
He didn't do what he was supposed to, which is catch pitches
russak - May 13, 2010
Exactly how though?
Did a passed ball allow a runner to advance? I missed this part of the game.
_David_ - May 13, 2010
Yes, on a felix breaking ball, and the runner advanced which allowed him to score on a single.
russak - May 13, 2010
Yeah then the runner scored. I'm not sure they ruled it a passed ball though.
I think passed balls should be counted as an error, so Felix isn’t charged the run. If the third baseman makes a perfect throw to 1B, and the first basemen drops it, it’s an error. What happens when Rob just flat out drops a ball? I’m not thinking he’s the best “personal catcher” to have for a Cy Young campaign. Then again, you can get 4, 5, even six K’s an inning when your catcher lets them by.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
So, I should be glad I missed everything after the 7th inning?
msb - May 13, 2010
If only it were a little league game
Cantu Easley Winn - May 13, 2010
This is so hard for me right now
Griffin Cooper - May 13, 2010
This is why you should never start a blog.
CapSea - May 13, 2010
It isn't that - when the players suck it provides more to write about it
I’m just too emotionally invested in this team.
Griffin Cooper - May 13, 2010
Try cutting yourself.
Here you go, champ.
CapSea - May 13, 2010
Thanks!
I don’t need all 100 though – if I buy them and give you the other 99 can I trust that you’ll distribute them strictly to other Mariners fans?
Griffin Cooper - May 13, 2010
I was expecting the clip of people jumping in front of a subway train.
Kermit. - May 13, 2010
I have never seen this but it seems appropriate.
Griffin Cooper - May 13, 2010
Awwww, it was an Eyebrows special. Looks like the video was taken down.
It was right here.
Kermit. - May 13, 2010
I can't find another copy of the gif anywhere!
Oh well, here’s the splatterific video.
Suicide Circle – Track Jump
Eyebrows - May 13, 2010
Oh God that is horrifying
MT Olson - May 14, 2010
SSS!
Chone’s .279 wOBA and -1.5 UZR/150, extended over the past 3 years, would make him worse hitter than Yuni, and only a slightly better fielder than Lopez.
There’s a logic to Chone being a Yuni/Lopez combo, since his salary is more than double what the Double Play Twins are earning.
Also, Yuni’s the sixth-highest paid Royal, which is depressing.
yuniform - May 13, 2010
Or you could just use Chone's numbers from the last three years.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
He was wearing a different uniform then.
Wrong sample size.
yuniform - May 13, 2010
Compared to career numbers, I know his wOBA isn't as abnormal as his batting average, but I don't think the losing the benefit of the Angels lineup is a huge factor in him slumping now.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
I wish we could delete our own comments.
refuse2lose2010 - May 13, 2010
You could just not post them in the first place, but I'm just spitballing here.
abender20 - May 13, 2010
Sweeny in his uniform looks exactly like me in my girlfriend's pajama pants.
sigalert - May 13, 2010
*Sweeney*
sigalert - May 13, 2010
Sweeney might punch you if you say that to him...
Talk it over with Larue first
beastwarking - May 13, 2010
You do that often?
wilsonpdx - May 13, 2010
Their clothes are just so much softer on the skin!
LonelyintheBleachers - May 13, 2010
I wonder if Sweeney's uniform is also about to leave him for a black guy.
CapSea - May 13, 2010
The baseball gods are obviously angry.
I think we need to Adenhart Fister or someone.
I Lick Squirrels - May 13, 2010
I think we should hold on to Fister, but if it has to be a pitcher, I volunteer Sean White
Griffin Cooper - May 13, 2010
But, if prospect=virgin, I don't think either would do.
Nick Hill, maybe?
yuniform - May 13, 2010
Mike Carp
Or Chris Shelton
Griffin Cooper - May 13, 2010
Why does it have to be a virgin.
Rob would work in that case though.
the other side - May 13, 2010
Adenhart wasn't a prospect
Or a virgin
Have you seen him?
MT Olson - May 14, 2010
Last time I saw him he didn't look quite so...assembled
pdb - May 14, 2010
?
TheBishop - May 14, 2010
He was such a player when they found the car he was inside the chick
OlSalty - May 14, 2010
Maybe Griffey, Rob, and Sean can all go for a nice ride.
the other side - May 13, 2010
I don't think we can appease them by dumping our trash.
Adenhart was a somewhat promising young pitcher.
I Lick Squirrels - May 13, 2010
Maybe we need to Fister Adenhart.
RunningFool - May 13, 2010
I feel like I'm reverting back to being a fan of a crappy team.
I’m starting to not care about the losses as much as I would if I thought this team was going to succeed. Basically I’m rebuilding the wall that I had built when they were bad. I’m afraid I’ll just start tuning in to watch Felix and Lee but start to become apathetic about the actual results.
Its a little early to give up but after losses its tempting. Try harder fuckers!
Edgar for Pres - May 13, 2010
I'm no statistician, but...
“…for Brumley to wave Wilson around, he has to be 50% sure that Wilson will score.”
It seems like to me, he just has to be sure the chances of Wilson scoring were greater than Figgins getting a hit in the next at bat. With Figgins batting around .185, I think waving in Wilson and hoping for a bad throw may have been the best idea.
DuncHen22 - May 13, 2010
Figgins working a walk ties the game in that situation.
BrianL - May 13, 2010
Hmmm, it would appear that batting average does not include walks.
What would be a good statistic to use in such a situation?
Kermit. - May 13, 2010
if only some stat like that existed... you might be on to something here. ;-)
hiskeyd - May 13, 2010
Figgins career numbers bases loaded
.328/.390/.524
He isn’t bad with runners on 3rd and 2 out either. Not sure how he is close, late, bases loaded against a wild rookie. But it seems like the chance of him getting on base and getting at least a run in would be almost 40%, hitters tending to do better when there’s no place to put them.
wobatus - May 14, 2010
I wish we had a side view of the Saunders play
Its possible that the only angle we have on it makes it seem more catchable than it was.
Smegmalicious - May 13, 2010
There is an alternate angle, but the camera wasn't zoomed in as the other one. If someone had an HD capture then we might be able to see for sure.
Janic - May 13, 2010
This makes me so angry
Fett42 - May 13, 2010
I just watched it from this angle on At Bat's video library
Hits the dude in the hand. Mariners got hosed, and Angel Hernandez’s team continues to impress me with how they can hold on to jobs while being incredibly incompetent.
Drew_D - May 13, 2010
That's not really the point
The only play in baseball they can currently review on tape is a homerun. This was a 4 run swing that clearly has a question of fan interference. At the very least someone should’ve been out there haranguing the umpires to go back to their little video hole and make sure.
Drew_D - May 13, 2010
Time to bring it back
Fett42 - May 13, 2010
Boy I'm glad I missed this trainwreck
Rob Johnson dropping a strikeout pitch, bad baserunning, questionable umpiring, and getting shafted by the Orioles in the 8th.
JLC - May 13, 2010
Belief system!
RustyJohn - May 13, 2010
Time to make a move at catcher
Rob Johnson is really having a rough go defensively. He’s not entirely useless and may be of value to Houston who is going with Kevin Cash as the backup. The Astros are committed to Castro long term and appear to have given up on JR Towles. A Johnson for Towles trade would help both players. Towels just hasn’t clicked in Houston but has very solid minor league stats. Thoughts anybody?
algionfriddo - May 13, 2010
You're gonna go blind.
Brian Floyd - May 13, 2010 via mobile
I usually think about these things by myself with the door locked and music turned up
DrunkAmerican - May 13, 2010
After today the reasonably good bullpen has blown 3 games
rather grotesquely, Aardsma twice after Fister pitched great and now League when the team had a 5-1 lead. If we’d held on in those three games we’d be 16-18, which would not seem so bad given the mediocrity so far of the other teams in the division. We’d be one series sweep away from being a game above .500.
Instead, the Mariners may soon be buried
ignacio - May 13, 2010
That is true
but there seems to be a lot of what ifs with this team.
Ballard Erik - May 13, 2010
In retrospect Gimenez totally makes that play.
Sec 108 - May 13, 2010
I hate you for bringing this up.
Mariner Melee - May 13, 2010
I had my knee fixed early in the week and I've been far too loopy to pay much attention.
There’s really no chance their turning this season around is there? Even if they dump the elderly huggers, get Bradley back and Bedard pitches well there is no chance of the play offs is there?
InSpokane - May 14, 2010
Not true!
There is roughly a 5% chance of the playoffs. Optimism!
Chris Hafner - May 14, 2010
I've given up on Wakamatsu. It was a bunch of things, changing Leagues arm angle, Sean White and the like.
Headline: “GMZ Gets Wak The Best LH Bat In The Game!”
Inside the story “Wakamatsu sends him to AAA to teach him how to hit right handed, since everyone knows switch hitters are more valuable.”
Kermit. - May 14, 2010
There is.
But it’s largely up to the team itself. Even if moves are made it still has to go on a hot streak.
ThundaPC - May 14, 2010
League's Career Days of Rest Stats
0 Days Rest OPS Against .790 (.490 slugging against)
1 Days Rest .765
2 Days Rest .691
3 Days Rest .711
4 Days Rest .375
He gets worse with too much rest.
SSS and I don’t know how he is pitching for the 5th day outta 6. But looks like he’d prefer a little rest now and then.
wobatus - May 14, 2010
He gets worse?
On 0 days rest he gets tattooed for .490 SLG and on 4 days hitters are OPS’ing .375 and he gets worse with more rest? I’d much rather a pitcher throw for a .375 OPS against than .790. If you don’t want him sitting for too long, it seems his optimum rest period is 2 days based on this SSS.
harkening - May 14, 2010
yes
I didn’t include his 5 and 6 day’s rest. I meant after that day 4 (a tiny sample) the numbers get worse again. Maybe he loses sink or command when he is too strong, but those are all small samples. Suffice it to say the happy middle is where he should be, usually. You obviously will need him to pitch consecutive days now and then. 5 of 6 is pushing him, apparently. Although Scott hit a decent pitch. At least a non-meatball.
wobatus - May 14, 2010
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