Seattle: 13-21
Tampa Bay: 24-10
| MARINERS | Δ Ms | RAYS | EDGE | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| HITTING (wOBA) |
-32.6 (29th) | 1.7 | 8.8 (10th) | Tampa Bay |
| FIELDING (?) | 18.3 (3rd) | 1.0 | 19.5 (2nd) | Tampa Bay |
| ROTATION (tRA) |
-4.1 (21st) | 1.5 | 15.0 (4th) | Tampa Bay |
| BULLPEN (tRA) |
-5.2 (25th) | -0.3 | 4.3 (9th) | Tampa Bay |
| OVERALL(RAA) |
-23.6 (24th) | 3.9 | 47.6 (5th) | TAMPA BAY |
And I saw Sisyphus at his endless task
raising his prodigious stone with both his hands.
With hands and feet he tried to roll it up to the top of the hill,
but always,
just before he could roll it over on to the other side, its weight would be
too much
for him, and the pitiless stone would come thundering down
again
on to the plain. Then he would begin trying to push it up hill
again
Sigh. What a mismatch this series shapes up to be. The Mariners survived their initial tests in getting through the first 22 games without Cliff Lee, but have struggled --to put it mildly-- once the real test began in May. There aren't any more soft landings, they've used them all up. They need to start winning now and to do so will require beating some teams that are more talented then they are. It's not impossible, but we sure could use a check in the form of some good luck from the regression fairy.
Tampa tosses three more righties against us this series. How much Griffey plays might well give us a clue as to how the team is going to approach the roster moves when Milton Bradley returns. Or it might not. In case you haven't noticed, we don't know. I'm not entirely confident the actual front office knows but even if they do, they're not sharing that info with us. You can ask what we would do and we'll be happy to refer you to the countless times that we've gone over what roster moves we'd like to see made. You can ask us to speculate on why a certain move was or was not made. Just don't ask us what will happen. We don't know.
At least by tRA these three represent our best possible series rotation. Thanks to his jaw-droppingly bad pair of starts before yesterday, Felix finds himself with the team's fourth-best tRA from the rotation. Life is weird.
By the way, Doug Fister missed nary a single bat in his last start and got just two swings and misses in the one previous to that. Over those 206 pitches and 15 innings, he has five strikeouts (all looking) and one walk allowed. In his last 38 innings pitched, Fister has walked three batters. He has a 2.2% walk rate over that span. 2010 Doug Fister is Carlos Silva circa 2006 at 10% of 2006 Carlos Silva's cost which is a Grand Canyon filled with Kettle Chips sight better than 2006 Carlos Silva at 2008 Carlos Silva's cost and a lunar rocket to the perpetual orgasm planet better than what we actually got from Silva.
Doug Fister's BABIP is at .226. Jason Vargas' BABIP is at .223. Ohhhhhhhh no.
I will not cheapen our celebration of Felix Day by calling it Cliff Lee Day. I am slightly partial to the Cliffmas moniker, but that is neither here nor there at the moment. Every Cliff Lee start should be treasured from here on out. We have to face the reality that he's not likely to be a Mariner come 2011 and now start preparing that he may not even be a Mariner come August. I know he doesn't quite have the long standing emotional ties with many of you, but for me he represents not just himself. He is a symbol of all the hope that I had for 2010. I don't want that to leave, not this soon.
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0 recs | 65 comments
It's still hard for me to fathom that our rotation ranks that poorly.
Thanks a lot RRS and Snell.
SethGrandpa - May 14, 2010
RRS yes, Snell not so much
Matthew - May 14, 2010
Nice sentence
You know the one.
DrunkAmerican - May 14, 2010
Seconded.
First you made me hungry, then…
Jon S. - May 14, 2010 via mobile
I cannot believe someone is worse than us at hitting.
I just can’t.
MT Olson - May 14, 2010
Wow.. Yeah. It's the Astros
And it really isn’t all that close. .260 for HOU, .293 for us. (Fan Graphs)
seattlesundevil - May 14, 2010
How can we move this team to the NL?
Having our pitchers hit, amazingly, would be a better option at this point as well.
AgainstKyle - May 14, 2010
Our DHs v. Astros' pitchers
Astros pitchers are hitting .207 with 1 double and 0 HR. Our DHs (not just limited to Griffey and Sweeney) are hitting .186 with 3 doubles and 1 HR in more than twice as many ABs.
Was this what MLB envisioned back in 1973?
AltCtrlDelete - May 14, 2010
Why yes it was
As the MLB representatives were pondering the future glory of the sport, they thought, “How can we keep barnd name players, past their prime, around in the game when they can longer take the field?”
and thus the DH was born.
lokiforever - May 14, 2010
Ah yes, BUT
the thinking was “they can no longer take the field, but they can still hit”…
NWade - May 14, 2010
Old player skills!
bamfor - May 14, 2010
Sweeneys batting cleanup again
Brian Floyd - May 14, 2010 via mobile
Ugh. Yeah...
Via Shannon Drayer’s twitter:
wyte_lightning - May 14, 2010
Against a righty....odd
Brian Floyd - May 14, 2010 via mobile
Somethin's going on!
Per Baker:
Coach Owens - May 14, 2010
Wak doing his best to get Saunders as few at bats as possible
Cantu Easley Winn - May 14, 2010
I think this is more of the "don't put too much pressure or change his routine" type of mentality
After last year and the first part of this year in AAA, I don’t blame him – let the dude’s confidence grow. If he is having success in the 9 hole, keep him there for awhile.
seattlesundevil - May 14, 2010
At this point, I think you might have to risk comfort for optimal run scoring opportunities.
Staying the course just isn’t cutting it.
SethGrandpa - May 14, 2010
I agree - and I can see both sides of it.
I just think that there is a downside to moving him out of the spot where he is building confidence. Don’t get me wrong, I know there is the obvious upside of moving him up and having a hot bat in the middle of the lineup, as well.
He was nearly broken (confidence wise) last year – or at least it seemed like it – I am hesitant to push him up and have it happen again until he builds it up a bit more, which might not take that long if he continues at this pace!
seattlesundevil - May 14, 2010
Lopez hitting 5
I officially have no faith in Don Wakamatsu’s brain.
Sunuvabitch…
tait644 - May 14, 2010
He hit a dinger yesterday!
That must mean he’s good again!
I Lick Squirrels - May 14, 2010
Hey Downers!
I’m personally just as optimistic now as I was before the season (well at least, before the season but after Lee got hurt). Guti is doing what he’s doing, Saunders is coming around, Langerhans is doing well, Lopez is showing good defense while he’s still around (I mean, how high were your expectations for his offense anyway?), Most of our top prospects are doing just fine. Most of our worst aspects are very fixable – Sweeney and Griffey, our DHPHs (Place Holders), will ride off into the sunset sooner or later, hopefully followed by Lopez. Figgins will turn things on, no doubt. It’s all good, bros.
shrugolystuart - May 14, 2010
Maybe it's not so smart to call people names when you haven't been posting long
if that’s just your sense of humor, I apologize, but still, maybe avoid the name-calling in future?
And more to your point, the fixability is what has a lot of people distressed – it may be fixable, but it isn’t being fixed.
pdb - May 14, 2010
Bingo (to your third sentence).
Fixable is great if you actually do something about it.
abender20 - May 14, 2010
And come Monday, it may be too late fix it anyway.
We’re 20 percent of the way through the season already, and we’re about to face one of the best teams in baseball three times. We need to not suck this weekend.
Teej - May 14, 2010
We need more Saunders!
abender20 - May 14, 2010
...Did I just hear a call for more cowbell?
[insert photoshopped image of Will Ferrell banging cowbell here – but replace Will with Saunders]
NWade - May 14, 2010
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SaundersNyjer Morgan.Eyeball Kid - May 14, 2010
3 games in a row without Griffey starting, maybe he is already getting the Jack Wilson treatment and a DL move is forthcoming.
Janic - May 14, 2010
Probably waiting for Bradley to be available again, as who the hell else will fill that roster spot?
abender20 - May 14, 2010
We need to Wally Pipp that shit.
joof - May 14, 2010
Hmm
Is this a Carlos SIlva fat joke?
Cantu Easley Winn - May 14, 2010
No it is not because those are not funny and are way overused
pdb - May 14, 2010
It was just ironic is all
Cantu Easley Winn - May 14, 2010
It was just delicious is all
A king county dream.
Jon S. - May 14, 2010 via mobile
If you dove face first into the Kettle Chip Grand Canyon with your mouth open, you could get a Kettle Chip core sample of deliciousness.
abender20 - May 14, 2010
No you would get Kettle Chip lacerations.
Sec 108 - May 14, 2010
Now with extra salt!
pdb - May 14, 2010
This was an extension of my childhood dream to fill my pool with layered flavors of pudding and then do the same thing.
abender20 - May 14, 2010
Why does that dream have to die with childhood?
pdb - May 14, 2010
I learned about bacterial growth.
abender20 - May 14, 2010
stupid book learnin'
pdb - May 14, 2010
Chill the pool?
Sec 108 - May 14, 2010
Odd, GMZ wasnt supposed to be in Tampa.
He just showed up in the clubhouse
Brian Floyd - May 14, 2010 via mobile
You sure it was him and not his coaching twin?
Eyeball Kid - May 14, 2010
That always confuses the hell out of me
when I go to games.
chezbergrur - May 14, 2010
I love how we're all hoping this means something major.
I can’t see Griffey retiring on the road, so that shouldn’t be it.
abender20 - May 14, 2010
Could just be a light a fire meeting.
Or a subtle reminder he’s looking over their shoulders
Brian Floyd - May 14, 2010 via mobile
GM in the clubhouse is kind of unusual isn't it? Typically the narrative after is the players don't like it
Kermit. - May 14, 2010
I believe the trip to Baltimore was the first he missed this year.
Janic - May 14, 2010
He could catch a cab home from the park.
Teej - May 14, 2010
I heard he ratted out Griffey, and is going to fight Sweeney.
joof - May 14, 2010
In college, he must have been one of those guys that just showed up to parties uninvited.
Janic - May 14, 2010
Might be planning to be a DH in one of the next two games.
ThundaPC - May 14, 2010
Progress???
Wait…catchers must catch the baseball?
SethGrandpa - May 14, 2010
Rob Johnson is so bad he can shake even the sturdiest of belief systems.
Eyeball Kid - May 14, 2010
I'd be willing to bet that this doesn't mean anything.
abender20 - May 14, 2010
Me too, sadly.
Eyeball Kid - May 14, 2010
Rob Johnson is so bad...
how bad is he? Rob Johnson is so bad…he’s the starting catcher for the Seattle Mariners! Ahhhahahaha! Oh…wait…
Charles Gipson - May 14, 2010
Yakov Smirnov said it!
Coach Owens - May 14, 2010
Seems logical, no?
HOW IS THIS JUST NOW COMING TO THE FOREFRONT!?
seattlesundevil - May 14, 2010
Because we've been waiting for the weather to warm up...
Once its hotter out I’m sure Griffey will start producing, Johnson will start catching, Lopez’ balls will start carrying further (i.e. over the fence), Chone will put better swings on the ball, Bradley will see all the flowers in bloom and mellow out, and Jack’s legs will hold up better. Did I miss anyone? :-P #sotiredoftheexcuses
NWade - May 14, 2010
Bedard is coming back!
SethGrandpa - May 14, 2010
What's Seattle's team payroll right now?
That’s the thing the Mariners have that a ton of other teams don’t; They’ve got the money to give him $16-18MM/year, but it’s all for naught if he’s fed up with a half-run of support per game.
craig3410 - May 14, 2010
Whether Lee will be a Mariner in August depends on what Z wants for him
Well, I mean, obviously, but the choice is a smattering of vetted minor leaguers from somebody’s farm system, or two draft picks (right?) from the Yankees. Given that draft picks give you full control over whom you get, or at least to whom you have the rights, he might go that route, and not depend on who the other team wants to give.
Aly Edge - May 14, 2010
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