Lookout Landing

Three, actually

DFA Colome for Tui or Hannahan, White down and Kelley up

seattlebruin - May 2, 2010 reply

Release Sweeney.

zeeehjee - May 2, 2010 reply

That's the one abender is referring to

seattlebruin - May 2, 2010 reply

I was reading about how upset Byrnes was after Friday night's game.

The human side to baseball must just be crazy. You invest so much mental energy into a team, only to find yourself no longer a part of it less than 48 hours later.

That said, this is a step in the right direction.

katal - May 2, 2010 reply

Well considering the fact he rode a bicycle away from the stadium on Friday; I can't imagine he has many assets to get rid of up here.

kentroyals5 - May 2, 2010 reply

Well, yeah, real high bar.

My cat’s probably more valuable than Sweeney or Griffey in that he won’t frickin’ ground into an inning-ending double play with the bases loaded.

craig3410 - May 2, 2010 reply

My cat has a tiny strike zone and would hope for a walk.

The only bad part is that he walks away from home plate unpredictably and can’t hold a bat.

ignacio - May 2, 2010 reply

I don't think this change makes us better.

If Griffey is still our starting DH against RHP, Langerhans won’t get any more playing time than Tui. This basically installs Sweeney as the perma-DH vs LHP.

Langerhans -> LF, Bradley -> DH, Griff/Sween on the bench

Though you’d need an emergency outfielder if Bradley is DH. Hm. That doesn’t really work. Still the only way I see a big improvement through this move.

It's the logical/smart thing to do, but Griffey isn't going to be benched until all his bobbleheads are given away.

Can't say why, but I don't see him putting up that big of a fight about it.

He supposedly signed as a bench guy, no?

I don't think they're going to give up on him for a while, they still think he draws fans to games (and are probably right).

There are soooo sooo many Griffey jerseys and Griffey signs and Griffey shirts at games.

How many of those were bought ten years ago?

craig3410 - May 2, 2010 reply

A lot look pretty new, and regardless people are coming to games because of him.

Wait until after tomorrow. Since the roster isn't squared away, there could be any number of surprises.

You don't think having a backup shortstop who can play the position makes us better?

Or an outfielder that isn't a complete assclown?

I think this move makes us worse

That's because you are trolling

Less enjoyable to watch, I mean

Also wrong.

That is up for debate

I didn't enjoy watching the Prancing Pop-Up play

But that’s just personal taste.

Gihyou - May 2, 2010 reply

If it means Sweeney becomes our everyday DH vs LHP, then no, I don't think it does.

Now all we need to do is get rid of Sweeney and we'll be on the right track.

That said I’m a little bit nervous that the move is going to be dumb again.

Kirk - May 2, 2010 reply

There's going to need to be one more 40-man move to make this work.

As Dave points out, Bendynose to the 60-day DL?

Fingers crossed for Alex Gordon.

This would make me happy in my pants.

Sweeney for Gordon

They can have their own Junior farewell tour.

OceanBird - May 2, 2010 reply

Don't you remember the KC series?

They hate him.

I'm sure teams have asked about him,

and the Royals are easily the dumbest FO in baseball if they’ve responded with anything besides “Hell no.”

craig3410 - May 2, 2010 reply

They don't seem to want him around all that much, so who knows?

I will laugh my ass off if the Ms get Gordon for Tui.

Read what you wrote...

And then realize why we all think that this could happen.

dkulich - May 2, 2010 reply

Good news!

The Royals do in fact have the dumbest FO in baseball.

Astros?

Faux - May 3, 2010 reply

Dave says:

Pretty decent chance Sweeney is DL’ed by Tuesday – they just didn’t have his logical replacement in house, so they have to go get him first. I expect some kind of minor trade.

Alex Gordon!

Except Drayer says...

next move will not be a 60 day dl move

then…

most likely not on the 25 man roster

So I find any move involving Sweeney unlikely (outside of a 15-day DL maybe).

Fuckmikereilly - May 2, 2010 reply

Way to ruin it with logic.

No it still makes sense

Someone needs to get cut now because we’re over our roster limit, probably a minor leaguer on the 40. But when we go out and get the Sweeney/Byrnes replacement he will need a spot, so that’s when you put Sweeney on the 60 day DL.

You can have Ryan Garko back

Adam J. Morris - May 2, 2010 reply

Can we interest you in a Ken?

Sure

And we’ll throw in a Michael Young.

Adam J. Morris - May 2, 2010 reply

You'd probably have better dumping him on the Astros.

We're hoping the ChiSox put in...

…a waiver claim on him this summer, and we can let them have him.

Adam J. Morris - May 2, 2010 reply

You should give Dayton Moore a call.

He did wonders for us last season.

Well, they did well with Rios. He'll be hard pressed to fall short of that contract.

I remember when abender went off on a three day rant about how much we would miss Garko

seattlebruin - May 2, 2010 reply

I'd still rather have kept him thank Sweeney.

abender20 - May 3, 2010 reply

Thank Sweeney indeed

Gihyou - May 3, 2010 reply

Gotta be

Unless Z is planning a surprise!

Yup, Shannon Drayer says another move will be made tomorrow to open up a 40th spot on the roster.

kentroyals5 - May 2, 2010 reply

No.

He pitched today.

JY - May 2, 2010 reply

And considering Ricky Orta had TJ earlier this spring...

I’d say he’s the obvious 60-day move, but Shannon could prove me wrong.

JY - May 2, 2010 reply

Wak wasn't messing around. I like it.

melenious - May 2, 2010 reply

Wak was messing around. That's why this happened.

I'd like to think this is Z taking the roster back from Wak.

Whatever meeting there was last night was Z's roster reclaimation.

If Sweeney and White are traded in the same move, that would be equivalent to Jack Woltz waking up with the horse head in his bed.

Most of my brain wants to believe this as well, a little stubborn part is holding out hope it's not entirely true.

It’s kind of hard to give up on Wakamatsu, and if all of this is due to his mismanagement then there’s more stormy weather down the road. His bullpen decisions alone are making it difficult to stay positive about him, stoic demeanor, etc. notwithstanding.

Kermit. - May 2, 2010 reply

I like how he (outwardly, anyway) appears to handle his players. I get the impression he does the people part quite well.

It’s up to Jack to make sure that the roster in such a way that Wak can’t mess anything up.

Like you said, make him a deal he can't refuse.

Kermit. - May 2, 2010 reply

Er, should also include Z in the mix.

melenious - May 2, 2010 reply

When is Hannahan gonna be ready?

These are kinda like lateral moves. We still have no depth on our bench. I would rather have Tui and Hannahan up than Sweeney and Colome.

niceguysfinishlast - May 2, 2010 reply

Tui Hanners and Josh Wilson is a bit much in terms of IF depth, no?

That's true

It would be better if one of them was an OF. Tui can play some OF I guess….who do we have in AAA that would be a good OF backup?

niceguysfinishlast - May 2, 2010 reply

Langerhands who is now in Seattle...

Kirk - May 2, 2010 reply

My point is it would be nice to have a 2nd backup OF

If Bradley is the DH and Langerhans in LF, we dont have any OF backups anymore

niceguysfinishlast - May 2, 2010 reply

Saunders should stay in AAA, and he isn't hitting anyway.

You really don’t have any other major league options.

He finally snapped his 0-fer streak!

What is he hitting? .137? Something like that.

And no HRs again.

ignacio - May 2, 2010 reply

He should be ready to go in a week or so

Should be back soon

And once he is Tui is redundant. I would rather have Hannahan and a new RH LF

Jermaine Dye!

Ew

Gihyou - May 2, 2010 reply

We aren't the Angels.

Mariner John - May 2, 2010 reply

That outfield makes me so :(

: (

There, there. Rivera's not that bad at least.

Mariner John - May 2, 2010 reply

He is in CF.

Time to remove the tagline, m'dear.

melenious - May 2, 2010 reply

Josh Willingham!

Yes, please.

Matt Erickson - May 3, 2010 reply

What's with bringing Josh Wilson up?

What’s his upside over Tui, especially considering how little Tui played? Or do we just have fetish for having lots of people named J Wilson on the 25 man roster?

Thanks.

doublemazaa - May 2, 2010 reply

Defense

OceanBird - May 2, 2010 reply

Defense and versitility.

Kirk - May 2, 2010 reply

Tui can't play shortstop

Or hit!

Well this is up for debate

K in 45.5% of at bats. I'm not saying Josh Wilson can hit, but Tui sure can't.

22 PAs and hugely irregular playing time.

And Hannahan is still getting in work

It’s temporary as a stop gap, I’d guess.

That's my guess too

I hope so, Josh Wilson is a downgrade from Tui as a backup at every position other than shortstop.

Hannahan, at least, is obviously better everywhere.

That doesn't make a bit of sense. Josh Wilson is a superior defender.

Tui is a better hitter, but can't play SS.

If Josh Wilson is a better SS, he's a better 2b, 3b as well.

I don't think that's necessarily true.

Correct, you don't.

It's not necessarily true, no

It’s just overwhelmingly likely to be true for second and slightly less overwhelmingly likely at third. Tui is not a good defender at any infield position.

I guess it just depends on how much you believe Tui's bat vs Wilson's.

And how much you think the difference between Tui and Wilson is at SS defensively relative to their difference defensively at 2B, 3B, and 1B.

I don’t think it’s a huge difference either way, however, and I’d rather have Byrnes in LF and Bradley at DH against LHP than Bradley in LF and Sweeney at DH. That’s why I think the move totally is a wash or negligible difference.

My belief that Josh Wilson is a much better defender than Tui has nothing to do with his bat

Oh, I agree that Wilson is a much better defender.

I just think the gap between Wilson’s glove and Tui’s glove is smaller than the gap between Wilson’s bat and Tui’s bat at the 1B and 3B positions.

Just because you have a Tuiasosopo fetish doesn't mean he's actually good

I think Tui will hit for like a .305-.310 wOBA at the major league level.

I think Wilson is closer to .270.

ZIPS has them as identical

That's interesting, seeing as Tui has hit better at every level at a much younger age.

What would you project them at?

Haven't seen enough of either one to disagree with the projection systems

Ok, I just find it hard to see in this situation.

LEAVE MIKE... umm I mean TUI ALONE!!!!

Faux - May 3, 2010 reply

Tui also can not play 3B well either, correct?

Edgar for Pres - May 2, 2010 reply

I don't know if Tui can play any position at an acceptable level right now.

He's playing local fan favorite pretty well.

He sure doesn't look like he has the arm for it right now

Poor Eric Byrnes.

kentroyals5 - May 2, 2010 reply

I kinda feel bad for him.

He was terrible at baseball, but I had fun watching him. I’m pretty sure he snorted a line of meth every time he came out to pinch run for Jr.

doublemazaa - May 2, 2010 reply

I will always appreciate a player that gives everything they have and goes all out like that.

It’s still a business and you have to produce so I agree with the move, but I don’t have the outstanding hatred for him. Liked the guy, the effort, but that’s not always enough.

He didn’t do himself any favors though with his Pull Back.

Boots. - May 2, 2010 reply

Yeah, the Pull Back was bad, but

he didn’t get enough ABs to be tossed just yet. He was entertaining. Plus, he’s better and/or has more potential than Sweeney.

TrustBaseball - May 3, 2010 reply

I'm sure going to miss him...

His antics kept me smiling as we drove into the black hole.

MT Olson - May 2, 2010 reply

It's a Polish message from Jack Zduriencik...

It means Eric Byrnes sleeps with the fishes.

RustyJohn - May 2, 2010 reply

This is the single greatest piece of news I've seen all week.

E-Lizz - May 2, 2010 reply

I'll agree with that.

Watch Byrnes sign with someone and then tear shit up. F Him.

Not as exciting as me finding out I'm not pregnant!

Wait, you wouldn't be excited about being pregnant?

seattle_since_81 - May 2, 2010 reply

My parents would kill me if it happened again.

Maicer has some potent seed, though, don't he?

AND HOW!

Your kid would have such lovely eyebrows, though.

seattle_since_81 - May 2, 2010 reply

Could be on Oprah!

Mariner John - May 2, 2010 reply

Who do you think knocked me up the first time? :(

!

Banes!

I didn't realize Arnie was in that.

Double06 - May 2, 2010 reply

Everybody has regrets.

This is also a good thing.

E-Lizz - May 2, 2010 reply

The 40 man roster move will not be a 60 day spot

Someone is getting kicked off the team.

No wammy no wammy no wammy

Sweeney!

More likely to be a random minor leaguer

Lots of them are ready for the chop

Suck it Shawn Kelley

There's a name missing from this list.

It begins with Mike and ends in Sweeney.

voltron27 - May 2, 2010 reply

Byrnes being swapped out for Langerhans was too obvious.

Tui has hardly been the worst of our problems but it was a roster construction problem that is now solved.

I will not be satisfied until Sweeney is replaced by an adequate RH hitter. Doesn’t even need to be able to play defense (though an OFer would be great).

Fuckmikereilly - May 2, 2010 reply

Sounds like Dye.

If we do go that route I sure hope he is cheaper than what has been floating around and then what do we do?

I’m guessing we don’t go after him though as there is still a logjam at DH with Griffey.

Dye can't play outfield, I doubt his ability to hit, and most importantly...

he’d cost too much money. If by some miracle we could get him for like 1 mil while dumping Sweeney, I’d consider it.

Fuckmikereilly - May 2, 2010 reply

Yeah I agree. I know he can't play outfield.

He can still hit for more power than anything we have though I believe.

Wish we went after Laroche back in the day.

We have enough DH-only type players on the roster.

That is why he suggested dumping Sweeney while we were at it also.

We'd still have too many DH-only type players on the roster.

Haha true. But it looks unavoidable with this team any way you look at it.

Signing Dye is unavoidable?

I wonder what it would take to get Hunter Pence?

The one young and talented offensive player with team control on the Astros?

Yeah. So probably like Sean White?

moyerLIVES - May 2, 2010 reply

Sweeney and Junior?

Whoa whoa whoa

We don’t want a repeat of the Bedard trade here.

Cantu Easley Winn - May 2, 2010 reply

I mean God, you probably want to give them Josh Wilson too.

Keep it real man.

Why don't you throw in Johermyn Chavez while you're at it.

Jesus christ!

Cantu Easley Winn - May 2, 2010 reply

Whew. I missed Langerhans. I won't miss Byrnes.

royalcurve - May 2, 2010 reply

I know, it's about time this team started hitting some walkoff dingers.

Oooooh, his walkoff dingers. Swoon!

royalcurve - May 2, 2010 reply

I'd take a freakin dinger in general at this point.

You can get knocked up that way, ask Eyebrows if you don't believe me

Kermit. - May 2, 2010 reply

I'm surprised Goose hasn't made an appearance in this thread yet.

Then again, he’s probably dancing naked in the streets right now.

Benne - May 2, 2010 reply

If they release Sweeney, I will join him.

He's in a joy induced coma.

.

Almost.

Huh, didn't notice that thread up.

Benne - May 2, 2010 reply

Thank. God.

I really didn’t think they’d get rid of Byrnes so quickly.

sanford_and_son - May 2, 2010 reply

This is for the better

I was becoming irrationally attached to Byrnes and hated myself for it

Corco - May 2, 2010 reply

Bittersweet.

I love winning and all that, but I’m likely going to miss the Ballerina and his crazy antics.
We should hire him on as a third base coach. Imagine him waving runners around. . .

dice_tumbler - May 2, 2010 reply

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHA SUCK IT BYRNES! ENJOY UNEMPLOYMENT ASSCLOWN! AHAHAHAHAHAHA! I HOPE YOU NEVER GET A JOB IN BASEBALL AGAIN! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!

Goose - May 2, 2010 reply

We missed you.

JY - May 2, 2010 reply

At least this has brought a smile to one unfortunate soul.