Let's see what we've got here. Tuiasosopo for Wilson? This is just a move to get us an actual backup shortstop. Tui was primarily seeing time between Figgins and Lopez, and he's booted a few balls and made some bad throws. His unwatchable defense has only enhanced the downside of pinch-hitting for Jack Wilson. Josh Wilson, as we all know, isn't much, but the gap between Tui and Wilson in the field is like the gap between Rob Johnson and a catcher, so he gives Wak an actual option. It doesn't hurt that Wilson's been swinging a good bat in Tacoma, with a .333 average and 12 extra-base hits. Tui'll play regularly in the minors and try to develop into whatever he's going to be. Wilson probably goes away if and when Jack Hannahan demonstrates some competence in the middle infield.
Byrnes for Langerhans? I don't know that 38 plate appearances is proof of Byrnes' uselessness, but he didn't do anything to endear himself to the organization, so his going away comes as little surprise. Langerhans will come up and offer some actual talent and good defense without having to make a whole show of it. The tricky part here is that Langerhans is left-handed, which is difficult to reconcile with the desire to give Griffey regular time at DH, but then, maybe that means the team has gotten sick of Griffey at DH, which would be wonderful. Langerhans is a decent player, and it'll be nice to see him come back. It's also very possible they just stick him on the bench as the fourth OF.
The biggest critique of the moves so far has been that Mike Sweeney isn't involved, but then, I don't know what you expected them to do. They're not just going to cut him outright, and it's not like the system is bursting at the seams with Major League-caliber players. Certainly not right-handed bats. Who do you want? Tommy Everidge? What the M's need to do is put Sweeney on the DL and go outside the organization to fill his spot, and that's not something you can do in a snap. They have tomorrow off. There'll be conversations.
Talent-wise, there's nothing but gain. Blogging-wise, things won't be the same without Byrnes on the roster, but his last act of any significance was storming out of the clubhouse on a bicycle, and for that I say kudos, Eric. American television producers could learn a thing or two out of this.
Update: as Drayer points out, these moves bring the Mariners' 40-man roster to 41. Outside shot you could see someone kicked off the team, I guess, but the likelihood is that it's something minor. Drayer says the next move "will not be a 60 day DL move," but Ricky Orta underwent Tommy John a few weeks ago and isn't yet on the 60-day DL, so, who knows? Orta just seems so obvious. Could also see, I dunno, Varvaro go away, or even a two-for-one trade.
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Eric Byrnes is mad as hell and he’s not going to take it anymore!
Dewey N - May 2, 2010
Windown dressing. I would bet that Bradley is in LF most nights, and Griffey is the DH
Byrnes has shown little, but I still don’t understand why cutting Sweeney, and going with the Byrnes/Langerhans LF platoon, with Milton as full-time DH wasn’t the move that was made.
That would show actual change like Wak promised. Cutting a guy they were using mainly as just fourth outfielder doesn’t indicate to me they are 100% serious about maximizing roster potential. I think you guys are being a tad bit optimistic if you think Langerhans is going to be the primary LF vs right handed pitching.
I expect the hugging platoon will remain intact at the DH position most nights.
Rudy4three - May 2, 2010
Give them time
They can’t fix everything at once.
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Why the hell not.
We’re talking about Z here.
the other side - May 2, 2010
I agree, the fact that they're going for Sweeney/Griffey at DH instead of Byrnes/Langerhans in LF shows that nothing has really changed.
Unless Sweeney is swapped for a RH hitting OF that is at least as good as Byrnes, I’m ambivalent toward this move.
lailaihei - May 2, 2010
You don't know what they're doing
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
I'm not saying I do or condemning them, just noting that nothing has really changed yet.
I should have made it more clear that I understand another move has to go down tomorrow, and that I’m just going to wait until then to pass judgment (and yes I know my personal judgment means jack shit).
lailaihei - May 2, 2010
It's unfair to pass judgement on them then either
It’s entirely possible they’re already trying to work out a deal for the RH LF or DH or whatever. But that doesn’t happen usually happen overnight.
OlSalty - May 2, 2010
Replace "pass judgment" with "be content" and there ya go.
lailaihei - May 2, 2010
The roster stands at 41. Let's go ahead and wait 24 hours before we start condemning the front office.
abender20 - May 2, 2010
Aw but I was ready to start burning the tree
Dewey N - May 2, 2010
Eric Byrnes doesn't like people who burn trees.
abender20 - May 2, 2010
Eric Byrnes is that guy who somehow gets really hyper from weed
Dewey N - May 2, 2010
I really want that ability.
Teej - May 2, 2010
Because it's meth.
abender20 - May 2, 2010
I hate that guy
OlSalty - May 2, 2010
But you love Eric Byrnes?
Dewey N - May 2, 2010
I hate that guy when I am also on weed*
OlSalty - May 2, 2010
I'd be elated if Langerhans' promotion means less Griffey
Gihyou - May 2, 2010
I just wish we'd had Langerhans for Friday and today
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
I wish we'd had Langerhans forever, dating back to whenever I first watched the Mariners
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Ben Broussard is somewhere, being really jealous right now.
dkulich - May 2, 2010
Ben too
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Ben now
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Ben there? And loved it.
MFAN - May 2, 2010
Dunn that.
Fin - May 2, 2010
Any chance they will do anything to improve the catcher situation?
niceguysfinishlast - May 2, 2010
There is a chance but they like their catchers
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
... which makes them the only people involved with the Mariners (staff or family) that likes their catchers.
Belom3 - May 2, 2010
Unlikely
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
It's not terrible.
We have a real catcher, and Felix’s pet catcher. Wak just needs to figure out which one to play.
the other side - May 2, 2010
I would be very content with Johnson literally only catching when Felix pitches.
That would be just fine. Or Felix could find a new buddy, that would be fine, too.
sanford_and_son - May 2, 2010
Time to lock Felix and Moore in a small room for a few hours.
Coach Owens - May 2, 2010
As creepy as that sounded....
Well at least lock them in the bullpen together.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Or a motel room
jackyz - May 2, 2010 via mobile
Just because you guys have lusty felix thoughts doesn't mean Adam should get stuck in the middle.
the other side - May 2, 2010
There's a three way that will haunt my nightmares...
Belom3 - May 2, 2010
FREE KILA KIA'AHUE
Seriously. The Royals are wasting him in AAA and they need relief pitching, which we have a bit of a glut of.
ManifestDestiny - May 2, 2010
To take Junior's spot?
lailaihei - May 2, 2010
The Royals FO seems to really hate him.
Would be surprising if he isn’t available to anybody for anything.
Slica - May 2, 2010
The dude is hitting 307/.447/.640 in AAA
ManifestDestiny - May 2, 2010
They also sent Alex Gordon down to the minors.
Freaky.
perfectstrat - May 2, 2010
Z needs to break out whatever he shines his dome with and get to work.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Sticking with the topic, I feel this move needs to be made:
Jose Lopez, Dustin Ackley, Rick Poythress, and David Aardsma for Ryan Zimmerman.
I’m really sane, just trust me.
perfectstrat - May 2, 2010
No, just no.
the other side - May 2, 2010
This could in fact be why you don't run a major league baseball team
pdb - May 2, 2010
Well Dayton Moore runs a mlb team, but still.
the other side - May 2, 2010
I wonder what it would take to get him
Stormton - May 2, 2010
I'm curious too...
Anyone have a rough idea? Just simply more than we’d ever realistically give up?
mwalter - May 2, 2010
I'd start with Daniel Cortes and if Moore really pushed I'd throw in Derrick Saito
Corco - May 2, 2010
The Royals are probably in a less than favorable bargaining position
Given that he has been in the majors for like 3-4 years and is 26, it might indicate that they don’t value him that much as a part of their future to send him down now.
OlSalty - May 2, 2010
I kinda want Mike Aviles
but i think we might have already gone through our desires to steal KCR players
Edgar for Pres - May 2, 2010
I love Langerhans completely and utter irrationality and I know that he is far better in the outfield, but I am going to miss goofy ass Byrnes for irrational reasons.
InSpokane - May 2, 2010
Agreed
niceguysfinishlast - May 2, 2010
Well, he's unemployed.
I bet if you have a nice tall bong and some killer pretzels he’d be willing to come over and chill.
abender20 - May 2, 2010
I do live in the Bay Area, it's basically legal here.
InSpokane - May 2, 2010
I'm with you
that dude is crazy
jackyz - May 2, 2010 via mobile
I so wanted him to succeed here.
The man is tremendous human theater.
Big Jared - May 2, 2010
Same
Corco - May 2, 2010
I'm so sad
Corco - May 2, 2010
I feel really bad for him
Griffin Cooper - May 2, 2010
How do you guys say it here
I think it’s “samesies”?
Eric Byrnes made baseball entertaining to watch, but in the same sense as watching a groin shot montage on America’s Funniest Home Videos.
Jeff Nye - May 2, 2010
And once you see enough groin shot montages, they cease to be entertaining.
JLC - May 2, 2010
The first time it's slightly funny, the second time it'e one huge cringe, the third time it literally hurts to watch.
Pretty much Byrnes right there.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Yes.
Eric Byrnes looks like he’s auditioning for television everywhere he goes. His shtick always seemed a bit contrived to me.
Teej - May 2, 2010
.
Brian Floyd - May 2, 2010
This gif was inevitable.
the other side - May 2, 2010
I never get tired of this.
This is better than crotch shots.
RustyJohn - May 2, 2010
I loved the description somebody gave of this .gif a few weeks ago.
He goes to throw the ball, it goes over the wall, he looks at it like he is sad that it left and tells everyone that it left and he wants it back.
Kirk - May 2, 2010
Yeah for some reason I'm really sad to see him go as well.
He seemed like he belonged in the movie Major League or something. Like he is just weird and whenever he struck out, he’d talk to himself the whole way back to the dugou. That and the bike story make me miss him a lot.
Hopefulmsfan - May 2, 2010
If another team signs Byrnes, do the M's have to pay any of his salary?
rickpo - May 2, 2010
No
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
I believe the Diamondbacks are still on the hook for everything minus the league minimum.
Teej - May 2, 2010
Which is hilarious.
abender20 - May 2, 2010
Goose:
Fuckmikereilly - May 2, 2010
SPRING BREAK WOOO!!!!
Goose - May 2, 2010
7-7-07 to 5-2-10. The long nightmare is finally over.
One last time. Fuck you Eric Byrnes.
Goose - May 2, 2010
I no longer have to make a FREE LANGERHANS shirt, so that's cool.
Welcome back to the suck, buddy!
sanford_and_son - May 2, 2010
Thank you for the memories, Byrnes!
We wish you the best in your future endeavors!
ThundaPC - May 2, 2010
After going 0-3 since Opening Day, needed roster adjustments were made.
It’s weird to see such a quick leash on these players. Ever since Opening Day, everything’s been magnified tenfold.
perfectstrat - May 2, 2010
Not sure where you were going with, but theres been a few more than 3 games.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Cliff Lee day when the team was .500
Aaron Campeau - May 2, 2010
Bingo.
perfectstrat - May 2, 2010
They changed the bullpen after going 0-3 in the 3 games after Opening Day (1-3 total)
This is the first major move since then besides the Lee one.
Mariner John - May 2, 2010
I feel stupid.
Makes sense now.
the other side - May 2, 2010
It was sarcasm coupled with...
“”http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/04/30/game-23-rangers-at-mariner/" >Not since Opening Day"
perfectstrat - May 2, 2010
Wow, no idea what went wrong with either my linking skills or the ability to press "preview"
perfectstrat - May 2, 2010
Makes sense now.
I wish Griffey had a damn leash.
the other side - May 2, 2010
This comment confuses me
Griffin Cooper - May 2, 2010
Xavier Nady, anyone?
The Cubs have a ton of OFs, they need relievers, among other things.
tait644 - May 2, 2010
You're gonna go blind
Brian Floyd - May 2, 2010
This is getting ridiculous.
Albert Pujols anyone??
I think he’s available for the right price.
the other side - May 2, 2010
You are kidding, right?
tait644 - May 2, 2010
Nope he can totally be had for Sean White and Greg Halman.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Because that's exactly what I said
tait644 - May 2, 2010
No he is serious, tait644.
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
I believe it was a general comment on the usefulness of rosterbation
pdb - May 2, 2010
One of these things is not like the other.
Teej - May 2, 2010
Pujols' name doesn't have an X in it?
pdb - May 2, 2010
That must be it.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Here I thought he meant that one was Albert Pujols
and the other one was a 4th or 5th OF for the Cubs.
tait644 - May 2, 2010
Pujols is at least starting LF. Give him some credit for God's sake.
the other side - May 2, 2010
THERE IS A FUCKING FLOOR WOO HOO
EequalsMc2 - May 2, 2010
Oh no there's not
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Whoopsie.
Now you’ve gone and done it. Felix → DL announcement in 5, 4 ….
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
We're screwed.
Brian Floyd - May 2, 2010
Any perceived floor is merely a local minimum and not a true floor at all
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
Ooh, talk nerdy to me baby.
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
I wish I could
Unfortunately I failed my witticism check and the saving throw
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
You didn't verify concavity with a second derivative, Mariners continue on into negative infinity after a brief percieved floor.
Rowsdower - May 2, 2010
What hurts me is that I actually understand this
I wouldn’t have had a fucking clue what you were saying about 4 months ago.
Matt Erickson - May 3, 2010
I miss Calculus...
It’s been too long.
appleshampoo - May 3, 2010
Did someone summon me?
Scrappy the Scapegoat - May 2, 2010
No fuck off
OlSalty - May 2, 2010
Yep
it’s time for your distemper shot.
pdb - May 2, 2010
Fucking dog
Brian Floyd - May 2, 2010
Fuck you Poochie
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Poochie's not a dog
He’s a cop
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
Oh
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Oh boy this must mean I'm a mod!
Poochie - May 3, 2010
There is a subfloor
and then a basement, and a subbasement, and perhaps a network of caves under that that lead to a deeper basement. There is no floor.
pdb - May 2, 2010
So you're saying this floor is a facade and both Cliff and Sex are headed to the DL?
the other side - May 2, 2010
?
Aaron Campeau - May 2, 2010
And you know what's in those caves, don't you?
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
Buseygnomes?
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
This is the Seattle area, I'm guessing vampires.
the other side - May 2, 2010
You would be wrong.
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
!!!
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
I thought we were attempting to keep this a family show.
But no, you had to scare away all the children.
the other side - May 2, 2010
I love/loathe you.
BrianL - May 2, 2010
Sweeneygriffeygnomes would be so much better
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
That's Scruffy's area of expertise.
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
He's in Bangladesh so you're going to have to pick up the slack sport.
BrianL - May 2, 2010
Really, he's probably somewhere in/near Dubai at the moment, but point still stands
tootthekazoo - May 2, 2010
I'm not going to get work done for a while.
Too busy staring at this. I think this is actually shorter than the smaller version but I could be mistaken.
JY - May 2, 2010
This is the best .gif of all time.
Mariner John - May 2, 2010
Sad frankie and Aybar bees might disagree.
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
Ayber bees is the winner
Graham MacAree - May 2, 2010
aw :(
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Automatic rec
Dewey N - May 2, 2010
I do love me some sway
OlSalty - May 2, 2010
Subthread closed before it turns into a gif farm
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Except for right here
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
I miss these commercials so much :( :( :(
Dewey N - May 2, 2010
"I'm pooping"
tootthekazoo - May 2, 2010
I'm pooping. Thanks, Scruffy.
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
It's the gif that keeps on giving!
Eyebrows - May 2, 2010
I'd weigh in on this but I have some deck chairs that need shuffling instead.
Matthew - May 2, 2010
What color are the chairs?
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Non-existent
Matthew - May 2, 2010
Ooh, where do they sell that color?
the other side - May 2, 2010
Sherwin Williams.
Belom3 - May 2, 2010
Crafty bastards.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Better than throwing them in the pool.
Goose - May 2, 2010
Langerhans ought to make a difference since there will be good reason to put him in the field against RHP
which puts Bradley at DH (bonus!) and Griffey on the bench (as planned!) and Sweeney without a role (extra bonus!). But, this remains to be seen.
Question:
Would a DH tandem of Brad Nelson and Tommy Everidge outperform our current two?
Bearskin Rugburn - May 2, 2010
You would outperform our current two.
ty540 - May 2, 2010
I don't know
I doubt I could even hit in low A ball. Like, at all.
Bearskin Rugburn - May 2, 2010
I think a DH tandem of a Buseygnome and the kid from Rookie of the Year would be a better option.
At least he could draw a walk, plus I think Griffey is above taunting with “pitcher’s got a big butt” until a wild throw is made.
Belom3 - May 2, 2010
Dammit I want to hear a rumor that forces me to stay up the entire night.
Slurvey - May 2, 2010
When it comes to Z the lack of rumors is even more exciting.
the other side - May 2, 2010
Here's a rumor with no credibility whatsoever:
Rob Johnson is being DFA’d.
perfectstrat - May 2, 2010
I don't think any of us are that lucky
EequalsMc2 - May 2, 2010
The A's would sign him
He’d become an All Star.
OceanBird - May 2, 2010
Especially with Don Wakamatsu down there to mentor him.
Oh wait.
msb - May 2, 2010
I don't think I even want that
I can’t really believe I just said that…
Edgar for Pres - May 2, 2010
Felix loves the dopey bugger
Bearskin Rugburn - May 2, 2010
First Bill Hall and now Eric Byrnes
this team fucking hates me
Poochie - May 2, 2010
HE'S REALLY GONE :( :( :(
Poochie - May 2, 2010
Shut the fuck up.
They dropped Chris Jakubauskas like a hot rock when they didn’t need the roster spot, and then Lance Berkman tried to put a baseball through his brain stem.
When Eric Byrnes gets a bat splinter through his larynx, THEN you can comment on the unfairness of life and the fragility of nature. Like any of us will remember Byrnes for more than the squeeze play and the fucking bike.
marc w - May 2, 2010 via mobile
He missed that leaping catch at the wall in Chicago
Jeff Sullivan - May 2, 2010
Cost us the game, that bum.
Coach Owens - May 2, 2010
OK, that was pretty hilarious. Good call.
It’s no ‘one-hitter-and-lose’ in Chicago, but yeah, I suppose I’ll remember that.
marc w - May 3, 2010
You were also the number one fan of Randy Messenger if I remember correctly.
Sam Regens - May 3, 2010
Langerhans - WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SethGrandpa - May 2, 2010
Ryan Langerhans.
Coach Owens - May 2, 2010
That's a lot of roster moves. Hopefully it stirs up something good on offense.
Quite a few Rec’d posts in this thread too!
How about a bunch of upcoming wins for the Mariners next…
fortyniners - May 2, 2010
From Larry Stone...
“When we told him, he handled in in a tremendously professional manner. It’s never easy, but he was classy. He was disappointed, but I can’t say enough about how he handled it. He appreciated the opportunity to be here, and said he liked our team’s chances and would be cheering for us. He said he’s looking forward to what’s next, which he doesn’t know yet what it will be.’’
That’s good to hear (even though it literally doesn’t matter to us now at all). He was entertaining to watch, but I’m more excited about Langerhans.
I think he’s officially off my “hate with a burning passion” list now, good for him.
Karma Police - May 3, 2010
Oh, and it was Jack Z with the quote
Karma Police - May 3, 2010
He proceeded to hop on his Huffy and pedal off into the sunset
Brian Floyd - May 3, 2010
X
Kermit. - May 3, 2010
So long, dude.
rickpo - May 3, 2010
Another over the hill RH free agent bat Jermaine Dye?
jbpalm - May 3, 2010
Yes I think that describes him perfectly.
Sec 108 - May 3, 2010
My 3 Wishes
1. A Catcher that can catch.
2. A Left Fielder than can field.
3. A Designated Hitter that can hit.
This move improves two of those areas (at least against RHP) by moving Bradley to DH, Langerhans to LF, and leaving Griffey to be the glorified pinch hitter now that we have a backup shortstop. Against LHP, we’re still back to square one with Bradley in left and Sweeney at DH. And then, there’s still the aforementioned catcher position. Yuk!
rrenner07 - May 3, 2010
Adam Moore can catch.
Comparatively, at least.
Eyeball Kid - May 3, 2010
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