Biggest Contribution: Ken Griffey Jr., +29.2%
Biggest Suckfest: Chone Figgins, -14.5%
Most Important AB: Griffey single, +29.2%
Most Important Pitch: Bautista homer, -25.8%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -3.2%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +53.2%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
(What is this chart?)
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Thank. God.
seattlesundevil - May 20, 2010
So, Josh Bard the best catcher on the roster?
BrianL - May 20, 2010
unquestionably
vitalogist - May 20, 2010
He was really smokin' the ball today... AND catching it!!
seattlesundevil - May 20, 2010
I find it hilarious that Josh Bard might be the best defensive catcher on the team.
BrianL - May 20, 2010
No "might" about it
JeffJ254 - May 20, 2010
I'm only letting all this slide because Adam is on the DL right now.
I don’t care if he sucks right now, he’s good.
the other side - May 20, 2010
He will (hopefully) be good in the future.
But he needs more experience. His at-bats are painful to watch.
wyte_lightning - May 20, 2010
He did kind of turn it around in that game he got injured in
One game only, but its a start.
njd.aitken - May 20, 2010
Career .312 wOBA, so he's clearly playing over his head with the bat so far.
But that’s higher than Roborob’s career or projections, and just by watching he looks better defensively (hard to be worse). But Moore clearly should be better. Just needs seasoning. So if that happens in AAA this year, I’m okay with it.
appleshampoo - May 20, 2010
what
JonBBT - May 20, 2010
Finish on a high note!
RETIRE NOW!
vitalogist - May 20, 2010
Shoulda carried him off the field again. Storybook ending redux!
seattlesundevil - May 20, 2010
You mean carry and "accidentally" drop, right? That would work.
the other side - May 20, 2010
Did Griffey hit a dinger?
d0nkey - May 20, 2010
You may be shocked to hear this, but he hit a single.
marc w - May 20, 2010
Good thing I kept my bacon lube receipt then
d0nkey - May 20, 2010
I'm sorry....bacon lube?
Fuzz - May 20, 2010
Two words I wished never to see beside eachother.
njd.aitken - May 20, 2010
There's bacon soap for afterwards.
JAH - May 20, 2010
I want nothing to do with this party
Fuzz - May 20, 2010
I knew we would win.
Only a matter of time. Today was the day.
ThundaPC - May 20, 2010
You did? I figured we'd lose 148
Griffin Cooper - May 20, 2010
This team continues to find ways to disappoint!
JY - May 20, 2010
Do you believe in Griffdawg? YES!
Nick S - May 20, 2010
No.
This unfortunately means his leash will probably be loosened a little bit more and we’ll have to experience mediocrity with him a little bit more.
seiferguy - May 20, 2010
Why is this the predominant emotion after this?
We won the fucking game and did so in a dramatic and heartwarming fashion. Can we cut the “Oh now we have to watch him for 3 more months” stuff until we see that happen? THIS WAS A FUN BASEBALL GAME!
Not trying to jump on you specifically.
TheBishop - May 20, 2010
Yup, if Wak gives Griffey PT over Saunders then he's an idiot. This walk-off hit shouldn't have an impact on Griffey's playing time.
MFAN - May 20, 2010
Hopefully it'll be reinforcement for his job as LH pinch hitter
If he can do stuff like this every once in a while, we could at least get a little value out of him.
JeffJ254 - May 20, 2010
Whether right or wrong let's not start criticizing how different people respond to a baseball game
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
I know, and I sort of dislike the fact that I'm conflicted about the win.
We won, and we needed to win, but this game was as joyless and dull as all the rest up until the point Kevin Gregg absolutely lost his command. It’s great that someone else’s bullpen went kablooie for a change, and it’s great that we get a cool WPA chart for once, but I hope you understand where I’m coming from even if you disagree with it.
marc w - May 20, 2010
Absolutely.
And as an acknowledgment to Jeff above you got it. The last thing I’m trying to do is pass judgment on other folks’ fandom. I just want to be happy. I’m aware of all the potential bad process/good result consequences this result may bring for the rest of the day I’m going to watch that single and the team go apeshit and feel damn good.
Cheers.
TheBishop - May 20, 2010
I imagine most everybody is feeling pretty good
but people would rather post something snarky than something celebratory, because this is the internet.
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
Yep. Consider this my feeble attempt to take a step or two against the hurricane.
I shall instead go inside and drink beer.
TheBishop - May 20, 2010
I didn't post a word in the game thread, and I was legitimately unhappy when we won.
And it wasn’t just Griffey.
Teej - May 20, 2010
I'm too busy judging you to have a comeback for this.
Your feelings should be like mine!!!
TheBishop - May 20, 2010
Actually sarcasm aside what else about us winning upset you?
I’m honestly interested to know.
TheBishop - May 20, 2010
I was already pretty sour heading into the game.
The back-to-back bunts to get one run was insanely dumb in the third inning of a game against a team that can hang quite a few runs on you. Then more bunts. I just felt we didn’t deserve to win and I didn’t want to see us rewarded for such nonsense. (I’ve given up hopes of contending this year, otherwise I’d take a win any way it came.) And then the “how could anyone possibly fail here” construction of the Griffey moment . . .
I know we’ve had some bad luck and deserve some good luck, but I’m just in a pissy mood. This team doesn’t make me happy right now. Even when it wins, apparently.
I need a nap.
Teej - May 20, 2010
To be fair
Ichiro and Figgins were bunting for hits, which is completely different than dropping a sacrifice bunt.
etowncoug - May 20, 2010
I'm happy we won, of course, but...
Griffey has cost us more games than he has won them up to this point. It’s good he finally came through, but I want to be realistic about this.
seiferguy - May 20, 2010
I feel just like Seiferguy, but I'll admit that I hate that I feel that way.
I should be happy that we won, but one victory from a flawed roster that is probably going to continue to be extra flawed because today’s win will play well to the lowest common denominator of Mariners fans just doesn’t fill me with anything but…dread.
Jeff Nye - May 20, 2010
I'm still going to defile my Griffey retro shirt on Saturday.
Cantu Easley Winn - May 20, 2010
This WE chart would look much more familiar if it was upside down.
After losing several games where we were 85+% favorites, it’s nice to return the favor for once.
Chris Hafner - May 20, 2010
In all honesty when I opened this thread I thought it was another loss
Hadn’t checked the score since the 8th and I’m conditioned at this point.
pdb - May 20, 2010
Yeah I stopped watching then too
Edgar for Pres - May 20, 2010
I am happy for the win, but saddened that it took a complete pitcher meltdown to do it
(at least, that’s what it looked like by watching Gameday)
NWade - May 20, 2010
It's so satisfying to watch another team's pitcher do it for once though
pdb - May 20, 2010
And Kevin Gregg is a suckass who was pitching way over his head. And I hate him and he smells like
the inside of Beltre’s pants after the nut tearing game.
TheBishop - May 20, 2010
Yeah he was pretty terrible with the Cubs last year.
wyte_lightning - May 20, 2010
I don't want to know how you know what that smells like
pdb - May 20, 2010
So Kevin Gregg smells like good, old-fashioned biscuits and gravy, with a side of homemade flapjacks?
I want to believe that this is what Beltre’s pants smell like.
Chris Hafner - May 20, 2010
I kinda want to know *why* you want to believe that... but I really really don't want to know
NWade - May 20, 2010
Because it would stand as completely absurd testimony to Beltre's all-encompassing awesomeness.
Chris Hafner - May 20, 2010
Any Mariner win requires a complete pitcher meltdown
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
Now who's being defeatist?
NWade - May 20, 2010
We need to walk a lot to win!
MFAN - May 20, 2010
I think not swinging at any pitches might really be a good strategy.
skywaker9 - May 20, 2010
Bard really impressed me today.
He had some great at-bats. Great results from those AB’s. AND HE WAS ABLE TO HOLD ON TO THE BALL!
wyte_lightning - May 20, 2010
Worst game of the season by far
Poochie - May 20, 2010 via mobile
I didn't see the game. Of course I'll like it if they start winning (and hitting) some.
It makes sense that sooner or later Griffey would get a hit. And good for Bard.
ignacio - May 20, 2010
Gregg completely lost in the 9th
It was bad.
skywaker9 - May 20, 2010
Barry Larkin
philkid3 - May 20, 2010
There is a place on this team for Griffey
In the front office doing PR.
skywaker9 - May 20, 2010
It's somewhat true... PH against righty relievers with mediocre stuff
seattlesundevil - May 20, 2010
He was comfortable with it when he signed on for 2010, or at least it was reported that way
It was just bad roster/lineup decisions that have put him in a nearly full-time DH role.
appleshampoo - May 20, 2010
Winning is good
Wak’s decision-making still sucks. Half-expecting him to send Griffey up there to bunt…
skywaker9 - May 20, 2010
Wak had been ejected by that point.
jbpalm - May 20, 2010
Don't you think he was still calling the shots from the tunnel?
skywaker9 - May 20, 2010
Umm...you can't.
Fuzz - May 20, 2010
Did we win a game or something?
Huh.
lemonverbena - May 20, 2010
A 1-run game no less
skywaker9 - May 20, 2010
Canada is so bad at sports
Punkhazard - May 20, 2010
Most beautiful chart ever.
Kenneth Arthur - May 20, 2010
Ejection!
Woo!
Mariner Melee - May 20, 2010
So Wak got ejected huh?
Was he arguing balls and/or strikes?
LonelyintheBleachers - May 20, 2010
Nope!
Arguing a call at second.
Brian Floyd - May 20, 2010
Its why we won
That I’m sure of.
The team responded to his departure with their best play in a while.
skywaker9 - May 20, 2010
Ichiro was safe at second on his steal attempt.
_David_ - May 20, 2010
He was out.
wyte_lightning - May 20, 2010
Who cares?
Wak argued!
JY - May 20, 2010
Incidentally, it would have been his 100th win as a manager.
JY - May 20, 2010
Sounds like it counts as his 100th anyways.
drblacknwhite - May 20, 2010
That's bullshit
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
Jeff,
any plans t .gif that ejection? I only heard it via radio.
Mariner Melee - May 20, 2010
to*
Mariner Melee - May 20, 2010
It wasn't interesting
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
Lame.
Mariner Melee - May 20, 2010
He walked off the field like he was bored.
“Oh, you rejected me? Guess I should leave…”
CapSea - May 20, 2010
He argued like John McLaren shouted
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
He must have said the magic word, because it sounds like he wasn't any more animated than when he was yelling with the HP ump who refused to toss him
msb - May 20, 2010
With a script in one hand and a perscription bottle of anti anxiety medication in the other?
BrianL - May 20, 2010
What would it take for Wak to cuss and get animated?
I mean it would be really interesting to see.
Mariner Melee - May 20, 2010
Maybe a direct attack on his family?
msb - May 20, 2010
Did the Josh Bard sacrifice...
decrease the WE? Is that what that notch is?
run_dmo - May 20, 2010
Yep
According to fangraphs, it dropped our WE% from 73.0% to 69.8%.
Karma Police - May 20, 2010
Thanks
Didn’t know where to look. I would have thought the positive of the tying run would have outweighed the negative of the out … but I guess my intuition is wrong.
run_dmo - May 20, 2010
It knows how bad we are in extra innings.
SethGrandpa - May 20, 2010
I've decided it is fun to go to games when you become pessimistic.
At today’s game my buddy and I were guessing how they’d “almost win.” Would they have the lead going into the 9th before they blew it? Would they have the bases loaded down by 1 and no outs and hit into a game ending triple play? Even though you become pessimistic though, you still want to win, and seeing a win like this is just as exciting possibly even more so.
CapSea - May 20, 2010
Remind you of a game against the A's in 2008 at all?
Sec 108 - May 20, 2010
I remember being conflicted because we wanted a win but a loss was so much fucking better.
Then they won and it was like “Wow, they can literally do nothing right.” I forgot a lot of the play by play of that game though. Still, if I remember right that was the only decisive victory of the series.
CapSea - May 20, 2010
Details are fuzzy for me also.
Sec 108 - May 21, 2010
We drank at 11am.
I woke up ~30 minutes before that one like 3 hours of sleep. Mariners baseball!
CapSea - May 22, 2010
By the way, Mariners have a 1.000 win percentage without Don Wakamatsu.
CapSea - May 20, 2010
So we should fire Wak then, right?
seattlebruin - May 20, 2010
Maybe! =D.
CapSea - May 20, 2010
I think they lost a few between 1977 and 2008
Not sure though. I’ll need to do some research.
MT Olson - May 20, 2010
You'll find that you're wrong.
I’ll wait.
CapSea - May 20, 2010
Is anyone still continuing with their Griffey Challenge?
And does it void if he is released?
Zonis - May 20, 2010
Subliminal message much?
Kermit. - May 20, 2010
I gave up a while back
And yes, under the rules I believe that the challenge is voided
Fuzz - May 20, 2010
Can we keep Josh Bard (Jeff was calling it correctly right from the beginning) and make Rob Johnson and Adam Moore go away?
Well, one of the terrible two as backup.
Sam Regens - May 20, 2010
I'd be behind getting rid of Rob Johnson, but it's waaaaaay too soon to give up on Adam Moore.
Jeff Nye - May 20, 2010
Adam Moore seemed to be coming on a bit when he got hurt.
I’m not out on him yet.
SethGrandpa - May 20, 2010
Moore shouldn't go away entirely.
Tacoma shouldn’t hurt him if he’s working on certain things, but I think his overall skills are probably a touch better than Johnson. He can hit the other way, for example, while Rob is more inclined to pull the ball, not good for a RH in Safeco.
JY - May 20, 2010
Don't want to be a downer but Bard isn't this good
I’ll take it while it lasts but all three of them are ~ replacement level catchers.
Edgar for Pres - May 20, 2010
Switch-hitting bad!
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
I tuned in in the seventh to see Bard double and get stranded.
Now to figure out what in the blue blazes just happened…
JY - May 20, 2010
I have watched the videos.
I have seen Ichiro run out to high five Milton Bradley, which apparently took camera priority over the Griffey mobbing.
JY - May 20, 2010
Good I'd rather watch that anyway
Griffin Cooper - May 20, 2010
Well, THAT was an unexpected outcome.
I’d last heard they had a baserunner in the 9th, and you know that wasn’t going to result in anything.,
msb - May 20, 2010
I wonder if any Mariners considered bringing a shank to the Griffey mobbing...
JonBBT - May 20, 2010
Hey, the repeat is on already-- just I'll leave it on
msb - May 20, 2010
Two on, nobody out in the 5th, huh?
Classic. Know how this plays out.
msb - May 20, 2010
Wak said Wilson was bunting on his own with two strikes.
So I guess he’s off the hook on that one.
drblacknwhite - May 20, 2010
So it wasn't the coach, just bad coaching.
the other side - May 20, 2010
Or a bad player being both bad and stupid.
There’s no need to blame the coaching staff for the bad bunts they didn’t order when there are other bad bunts that they did order. Players are perfectly capable of doing stupid things regardless of the quality of their coaching.
drblacknwhite - May 20, 2010
So, why is it faster to run through the base than dive for it?
DrunkAmerican - May 20, 2010
As soon as you dive, you slow down
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
Right, but you're horizontal
So your lack of actually speed is more than made up for by your new position in space.
DrunkAmerican - May 20, 2010
This would be an interesting science thing. One other thing is, you can't go to second on a bad throw if you're on the ground.
the other side - May 20, 2010
Consider how far forward you can stretch your leg when you're running
I don’t know the science or math behind this, but I’m pretty sure diving blows.
Jeff Sullivan - May 20, 2010
I'm pretty sure running is faster because you are able to apply force the whole time
Maybe it might barely be worth diving but when you dive, you’d have to do it so that you don’t hit the ground before you get to 1B. If you hit the ground I imagine the friction would slow you down alot. Nobody would slid like this because you’d probably break your hand.
Edgar for Pres - May 20, 2010
Diving to first isn't useful because extending your leg is simply more effective
Other kinds of diving make sense because you’re trying to get your hand to the point of contact instead of your foot.
DrunkAmerican - May 20, 2010
Allow me to say
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
longwinded - May 20, 2010
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