A few key injuries, a Cliff Lee trade, and with our bad luck persisting we could theoretically have the worst record at the end of the 2010 season and thus be eligible for the 1st overall pick in the 2011 draft. But probably not.
What exactly to the masses think one should be fired for then if it’s not atrocious decisions late in games or horrible line up calls or the apparent lack of preparation & leadership.
“Erick Aybar singles on a bunt ground ball to shortstop Josh Wilson. Erick Aybar out at 2nd, shortstop Josh Wilson to second baseman Chone Figgins. One out.
It also seemed to have a bit of carry to it. I was surprised it went out. Regardless, it’s not like it was a meatball like League’s pitch to Morales yesterday. I’m not terribly mad at Aardsma.
We just seem to win the 1-run games this year and y’all seem to be losing them all. And two walk off wins, especially against the hated Slegna is not fair.
Every game has about 3 or four ridiculous baserunning mistakes, among many, many other things. This team loses games on its own. It’s not just the 8th inning onward – most of the runs this team scores are undeserved, and it purposely tries to score less runs throughout the game, and that’s not even discussing the bullpen management. It’s really not a good team. This is a bad team.
1) Do you consider the massive amount of baserunning errors a lack of skill or simply poor playing?
2) wOBAr is based on previous BABIP for individual outcomes, but is it possible that they are simply hitting it much worse?
3) Our bullpen, a should-be strength, was made worse by the changes to League’s delivery, Colome, Aardsma’s struggles, etc..
I have a feeling I have a different answer to these than you, so to me this is a less than decent team.
and Lopez’s move to 3B have worked out wonderfully. More than wonderfully. It’s not like everything has gone wrong. You can contribute much of it to bad luck, but the roster just wasn’t constructed to win this division. It’s not GMZ’s fault, of course. Too many constraints.
Keep in mind Snell and RRS are a chunk of “back of the rotation”.
If you don’t think the non-Griff/Sweendawg parts of the roster hitting at career norms and an extra month of Cliff Lee would have us ~.500, I really don’t know what to say, other than “I think you’re wrong”. The Rangers are 26-23, and I don’t see why a roster like this isn’t capable of contending IF most of it isn’t hitting below the Mendoza line.
That being said, it was a very risk-filled roster. It was counting on performances out of Kotchman, Vargas, Fister, Griffey, Bradley, and a handful of relievers. None were a certainty. A few panned out, a few didn’t. We couldn’t have anticipated Lopez and Figgins struggling this badly, but I don’t think career average performances from them would have saved this team. We would still probably be in it, but the talent just isn’t there.
I'd say that it was constructed well, given the situation (cumulative Bavasi buttfuck to the farm system and major league organization, weak FA class, and apparent budget constraints).
Obviously, there are several players on this roster that you wouldn’t normally expect on a “well-constructed” team, but I have to keep reminding myself that the M’s lost 101 games just a month and a half ago. That we even expect to do well is saying something.
I think it was constructed with a great deal of inherent risk.
The risks didn’t work out, or at least haven’t so far. It was probably close to as well put together as it could have been, but the bust potential was there and it appears to have been realized.
Unless you plan on getting better pitchers than Vargas, Snell, RRS, and Fister for Figgins and Lopez and better 2nd/3rd basemen than Lopez and Figgins for Vargas, Snell, Fister, and RRS.
I wanna see Ichi pitch for the Ms.
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Yeah when were losing
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Agreed.
And we’ve scored seven runs!
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Why can't we just win one without all the drama/
Mejeh - May 30, 2010
I predict a demoralizing Matsui double
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Grand Slam, at least it will be on a strike.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
Strike out on an inside fastball.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
NAILED IT
CapSea - May 30, 2010
That might be even worse
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
There have been 12 walks in this game
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
I've watched enough Arizona games this year that there is no amount of bullpen suckage that can phase me.
Goose - May 30, 2010
The Nationals last year -- all time worst bullpen I've ever seen in living memory.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
We've given back our lucky breaks
Matthew - May 30, 2010
STRIKE WOOOO
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Hey a strike!
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
STRIKE!!!!
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
STRIKE ONE
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
STRIKE TWO YES
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Is that allowed?
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
Is what allowed
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Throwing two strikes in a row?
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
Shawn Kelley kinda looks like Leonardo DiCaprio.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
He does...
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Wak. Kelley, good. Teixera and Colome, bad.
Allen Wu - May 30, 2010
WTF
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Oh my
Schuxu - May 30, 2010
Can Kelly pitch 6, 7 and 8?
So we don’t have to go to RRS?
ambrosia2112 - May 30, 2010
FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Alto - May 30, 2010
Unbelievable
Jackle Mackle - May 30, 2010
AHAHAHA
WHAT THE FUCK
esoteric - May 30, 2010
Of course!
jtopps - May 30, 2010
WHAT!!?!?!?!??!?!?
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Corco - May 30, 2010
THIS IS THE WORST BASEBALL GAME OF ALL TIME
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Game Over.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Seriously?
Mejeh - May 30, 2010
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
Corco - May 30, 2010
A new day, a new way!
Big Jared - May 30, 2010
We are incompetent
Gihyou - May 30, 2010
UNFUCKINGBELIEVEABLE
HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS CAN WE FIND TO GIVE UP A RUN
Corco - May 30, 2010
Let's lose this game!
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
This is sad.
Rachmaninoff - May 30, 2010
Hahahahahhahaaah
MFAN - May 30, 2010
Angels baseball!
pmc47 - May 30, 2010
Jesus
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
I feel like throwing up
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Wait, what?
Brian Floyd - May 30, 2010
WHAT THE FUCK
perfectstrat - May 30, 2010
This is it. This is the game where Bane breaks the Mariners' back.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
After the most fun loss yesterday, we're going to have the least fun loss today.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Least fun win?
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
I disagree.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Maybe
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Can't be a M's catcher without Catcher's Interference.
ABQmsFan - May 30, 2010
This is so slow and painful.
Bicycle Rider - May 30, 2010
YES!!!
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
THANK YOU THANK TOU THANKYOU
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
YES YES YES YES YES
Mejeh - May 30, 2010
SCARED FOR LIFE CHRIST
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
OH GOD A SLIGHT BIT OF MERCY
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
FINALLY!!!
Allen Wu - May 30, 2010
Win Expectancy of 81.5%!
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
What was it before that foul pop?
doublemazaa - May 30, 2010
70%
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
I feel comfortable with Kelley on the mound
JBell523 - May 30, 2010
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
THANK FUCK
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
As depressing as this has been to watch
we’re somehow still winning. But maybe that’s just because there is a delay on my mlb.tv feed…
exquisitedeadguy - May 30, 2010
I am actually disappointed that the Angels didn't break it open there.
DISAPPOINTED. WTF IS WRONG WITH ME.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
Actually, now that I've had time to reflect, I'm not disappointed.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
Huh?
JBell523 - May 30, 2010
You were looking for an excuse to go full-time Nationals?
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Never.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
NEVAH EVAH.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
Somehow we're still winning
Corco - May 30, 2010
Oh hey look Kelly is good.
Decatur - May 30, 2010
"At this rate we'll be going through a case of.............antacids"
Yeah I’m sure that’s what you wanted to say Sims.
Goose - May 30, 2010
I think of us need some advil
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
* Most
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
What?
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
To Wak,
Kelley must be your next Jesus. Believe in him!
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
So, last Memorial Day Sunday
was this game:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA200905310.shtml
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Oh good, I'm not alone.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Guti was batting 9th because he sucked back then!
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Yuni batted 2nd. Holy hell that was stupid
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Huh...
I thought Wak was a good manager last year.
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Clearly that one decision voids it completely
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Oh no!!
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
But memorial day was the 25th
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
Whatever. Shut up.
Matthew - May 30, 2010
No Kendry Morales this time though!
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
We even had our 4th string catcher in the lineup!
Corco - May 30, 2010
Everything. Right down to the obscure catcher nobody's heard of.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Toronto Blue Jays fans would beg to differ :(
Corco - May 30, 2010
Morales probably isn't ending this one
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
OH YEAH
THIS GAME DOESN’T REMIND ME OF ANYHING. NO-SIRREE!
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Wow.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Way to go
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
OH LOOK KELLEY IS BETTER THAN BOTH COLOME AND THAT HAWAIIAN GUY
Punkhazard - May 30, 2010
Colome and Texeira showed up in low-leverage situations
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
And then turns them into high-leverage ones
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
And then Kelley came in
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
And then Kelley pitched well
Thanks to everyone for contributing in this 6th inning recap, brought to you by Ford
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Wak better fucking leave Kelley in
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Would not be surprised if Hyphen comes in.
w00tah - May 30, 2010
Not sure we have much of a choice.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
Score at least three runs here you goofs.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
our greasy talons shall ensnare me no further! fuck you bitches,.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
I'm just tuning in and judging by this game thread alone
I should be happy about that, right?
krb - May 30, 2010
You got here just in time for the crappiest part!
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Lopie....
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Lopie has a decent eye...?
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
All of Casey Kotchman's solid hits are foul
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
I think it has to do with his head being crooked
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
Maybe someone should rotate him a little to the left.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
*right
CapSea - May 30, 2010
'Hammered foul'
That about sums it up for Kotch so far.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
NOT A BALL
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
It's still only the top of the 7th...
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
I may have said this before, but Casey Kotchman looks like a mole.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Cliff Lee has a throw day today, right?
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Two days rests?
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
They usually have a throwing day in between there starts to stay loose, I believe.
seattle_since_81 - May 30, 2010
*their
seattle_since_81 - May 30, 2010
Are you suggesting we have him close out the game?
I’m on board.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Nice try Kotch
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
That gets called a pop out solely because it was fielded by an infielder
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Yuni like...
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Aaaand they have figured out Alfonzo
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
It was good while it lasted.
FairWeatherFred - May 30, 2010
He IS mortal.....
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
Yay bad eye
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Breaking balls - not so good for Alfonzo.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I like Dave Sims asking if the M's can keep the Angels "off" the board
That is the wrong question. The question is can the M’s stop “putting” the Angels on board.
Coug1990 - May 30, 2010
You'd think crappy paintshops would be fast enough to be on time
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
I know the joke coming, and it is awful
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Goddammit don't be always right
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
I'm surprised it hasn't been posted yet
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
At least it was a distraction from craptastic bullpen appearance
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
Why so serious?
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
You've never heard of Bozo the clown?
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
This was the best I could do
*gritted teeth
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
Hey, the Angels haven't scored on a base-loaded balk yet.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
KELLYS BACK YAY
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Kelley
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
My bad
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Ceallaigh
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
Hey Guys... I'm going to hit a 3 run home run
Then drop a pitch, have trouble sliding into 3rd and get called for Catcher’s interference.
We’re still cool, Right?
ambrosia2112 - May 30, 2010
Yeah, we're cool Rob Johnson.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Alfonzo has been great
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
I like him much better than the alternative.
Missing Bard, though.
ambrosia2112 - May 30, 2010
Its cool
He allowed the umpire to be hit.
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Shawn Kelley is good Shawn Kelley is good Shawn Kelley is good Shawn Kelley is good
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
*Chone
CapSea - May 30, 2010
*Sean
CapSea - May 30, 2010
*Shaun
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Bill
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
Correct!
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Colume and Texeira were worse than Bill Hall.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
And Jaime Burke.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Come to think of it, where is he
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Nationals AAA?
Last I remember.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Wonder if they want Rob Johnson
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
They have Pudge
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I want to say Washington
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
And Nick Swisher.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
SIT THE FUCK DOWN SON
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Kelley!
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
So I'm guessing Kelley is back in the circle or trust.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
If he isn't Wak's a retard
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Well that didn't help.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
And there it goes....
Damn Guti almost had it.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
Nah, only Sean White and RoboRob and Sweendawg are in that circle.
Coach Owens - May 30, 2010
You bitch...
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
FUCK
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Darn.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
One run game!
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
We're boned.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
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IlliniM - May 30, 2010
I didn't think there was any way in hell that was going out
But yeah we’re going to lose this game
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
NO
Alto - May 30, 2010
I HATE THIS GAME
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
Guti almost got that
Allen Wu - May 30, 2010
Damn, he was close, a bit more to the left
WestCoastBias. - May 30, 2010
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Hahahahahaha baseball
Jackle Mackle - May 30, 2010
Oh dear
Corco - May 30, 2010
Kelley gives up a lot of home runs.
This is going to be the worst loss ever.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
And now the nervousness
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
.
Here you go, chief.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Wow, Howie did he hit that so far?
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Boooo you blew it
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
Actually I apologize for boo-ing since I can't even pun to begin with.
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
I'm positive that's not the case.
It’s a soft science.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
You have no idea how bad my punning abilities are
The intentional ones are hilariously awful.
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
Aw hamburgers.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
When does Mark Lowe come back?
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Not for a long while
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Lowe isn't exactly a destroyer of worlds
Cantu Easley Winn - May 30, 2010
HEs bettter than Hawaii and Jesus
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
I don't think he's better than League.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I don't think he's better than League.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
He is when he's on top form.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
That applies to pretty much everyone
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
That's true.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
At least with Willits I literally have 100% confidence he will not tie the game here
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Uh...
Coach Owens - May 30, 2010
We're still winning.
lailaihei - May 30, 2010
NICE PLAY
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
YES!
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
So who pitches the 8th?
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
RRS!
Coach Owens - May 30, 2010
2 Switch-hitters then 2 lefties,
might as well.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Hyphen?
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
I predict Kelley for a couple of outs
and then Aardsma with a long save.
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Well, Kelley, White or RRS
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Whites in AAA
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Just feels like he should be pitching in this game
Matthew - May 30, 2010
White would certainly be a neat trick
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
White?
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Who's Well?
The Awesomest - May 30, 2010
I'm fine, thanks for asking.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Im not,
This game is making me sick.
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Only 23 pitches for Kelley
He could start and RRS could come in for the lefties if need be.
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
RRS up in the pen.
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
How are they more annoying without Chone
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
Sit down, ya little shit.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Fuck Reggie Willits
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
Hey at least Aardsma can get a save!
Unless we blow it, which seems very likely.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Meanwhile, the Angels bullpen is unscathed
Score some runs you jerks.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
I'm turning on the Xbox.
The best case scenario won’t make me feel any better, and watching us finishing blow it will ruin my afternoon.
doublemazaa - May 30, 2010
A one run lead going into the 8th and 9th innings always feels like a lost cause with this team
But I think we’re gonna pull this one off.
OceanBird - May 30, 2010
Damn straight.
If we’re gonna play The Most Annoying Game In The World, we might as well be the ones to win, not those fuckers.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Huh, maybe we will be able to draft Rendon
JLC - May 30, 2010
Then hopefully we can trade him for Harper.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Care to elaborate?
lailaihei - May 30, 2010
We have the 5th worst record in MLB
A few key injuries, a Cliff Lee trade, and with our bad luck persisting we could theoretically have the worst record at the end of the 2010 season and thus be eligible for the 1st overall pick in the 2011 draft. But probably not.
JLC - May 30, 2010
Aw shucks what happened to 7-2
Nick S - May 30, 2010
You really don't want to know.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
We didn't throw strikes for 2 innings and it didn't work out well.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Sounds about right
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Ichibomb please?
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
close
Schuxu - May 30, 2010
ICHIRO WOOO WOOO WOOO
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Ichiro!
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
NOW SCORE HIM
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Ichiro is super awesome.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
ICHIRO!
Kawnliee - May 30, 2010
Don't throw the same pitch twice to Ichiro!!
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
I love how Ichiro makes himself look bad on a pitch
to bait the pitcher into throwing another one!
(see walkoff vs. Toronto last year)
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Ichiro wants to win
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Ichiro Woozuki!
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
This should never be written again.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
I agree.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Doesn't work as well as Woootierez
Goose - May 30, 2010
Also agreed.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Always let the Woozuki win?
Yeah… no.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Here comes the Wak Special...
Bunt….
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
I doubt this will happen.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
Someone bring the man home
krb - May 30, 2010
That's every LLer's dream.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I'd really like Figgy to hit a HR
Just to troll them.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
All Ms broadcasters suck
Mentink just said that Nix took Bartlett deep, not Shields
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
The M's broadcasters are great.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Except Mike Blowers
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Rizzs, too.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I'd take Rizz over Blowers
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
I wouldn't.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Mentink isn't an M's broadcaster
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Just kidding guys
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Wow, that really was close.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
You know we're spoiled when you expect Guti to make that catch.
I kinda did to be honest.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
I'm still impressed.
He was there for a while waiting for it with his belly on the top of the wall. Just hangin’ out.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Cmon Figgy
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
They bring in Kevin Jepsen, we have RRS warming up in the pen
Nobody actually wants to win this game
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Race to the bottom
ungoreatstefan - May 30, 2010
Our draft pick is gonna be better than yourrrs!
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Seriously... when does Wak get canned?
DHforHOF - May 30, 2010
In five years.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Fuck.
DHforHOF - May 30, 2010
Seriously, it's way too early for that
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Why? We have all seen the line up cards.
DHforHOF - May 30, 2010
Managers make way more decisions than just line up cards.
And Wak isn’t responsible for this team sucking
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Not soley. No. Yesterday was flat out retarded though.
Sweeney was going to hit for Johnson instead of Tui…why?
DHforHOF - May 30, 2010
You don't fire a manager for that
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
He's not perfect. No manager is.
But firing him is reactionary and not going to solve anything.
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Ok so here we go again. get in line... right?
What exactly to the masses think one should be fired for then if it’s not atrocious decisions late in games or horrible line up calls or the apparent lack of preparation & leadership.
DHforHOF - May 30, 2010
The hitting coach though...
DHforHOF - May 30, 2010
What the hell are you talking about?
Matthew - May 30, 2010
You will never find a manager who does everything right
and Wak’s decisions are not the problem. What does firing him accomplish?
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
It's not Wak's fault nearly every batter in the lineup has been horribly unlucky
Jackle Mackle - May 30, 2010
Who else would be warming up in the BP?
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
We have used Colome, Kelley, Texeira
League is probably unavailable, Aardsma will undoubtedly pitch an inning. Jesus Wak, be less terrible and warm up…erm…
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Turned on the game in the 7th
Moot point though since Kelley stayed in and has looked good
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Also I regret starting the whole subthread
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Somebody called Figger a traitor.
Figger looked concerned.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
That was a mariners fan right?
WestCoastBias. - May 30, 2010
Umm so apperently he cant throw strikes
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Hm
Schuxu - May 30, 2010
Damn guti
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
GET MAD BRADLEY
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Please Milton
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Bradley is going to be very mad if he doesn't do something.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Just plate a run, I need some peace of mind.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Damn
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
UGHHH
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Seems every bat breaks for Milton
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I am very unconfident.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
This is driving me crazy.
It’s like I know we’re gonna lose but I’m not sure how painful it will be.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
I could be at Folklife right now but nooo.
The Mariners had to go and make me care about them.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
BAD BASERUNNING WOOO
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Alto - May 30, 2010
What the?
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
AAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Well that was retarded.
Goose - May 30, 2010
HAHAHAAHAHAHAAH BITCH
Jackle Mackle - May 30, 2010
BUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
WTF was that?
DHforHOF - May 30, 2010
What in the dickens
JLC - May 30, 2010
What the hell happened? MLB.TV GRRR!
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Stupidity Angels
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Um what
Punkhazard - May 30, 2010
AHAHAHAHAHA
Angels Baseball: So annoying we piss ourselves off!
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
What in the flying fuck
Nick S - May 30, 2010
GREEDY BITCH
JBell523 - May 30, 2010
What the fuck?
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
Whoa, MLB.tv came back late there
I was greeted by ’EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE’S OUT’
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Me too.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
He was safe if he slid right.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
He looked kinda safe to me
JLC - May 30, 2010
He got his hand down, then it came off before his body reached the base.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
But Figgins never tagged him when his hand came off the base
At least I don’t think he did.
JLC - May 30, 2010
Didn't. The out call was on the initial slide, rightly or wrongly.
Matthew - May 30, 2010
He never tagged when he came completely off past the base
but as he was sliding in, his hand touched then came off. Figgins kept the tag on.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Thanks for being stupid Aybar
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
SIT DOWN
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Way outside, holy shit
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Kelly = Pimp juice
ttotmax - May 30, 2010
Oh wow, Kelley still in!
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
It's cause he's actually throwing strikes.
seattle_since_81 - May 30, 2010
Nelson Cruz is back on the DL
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Yay
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Delicious, delicious schadenfreude.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Hes fucking dealing
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
.
“Erick Aybar singles on a bunt ground ball to shortstop Josh Wilson. Erick Aybar out at 2nd, shortstop Josh Wilson to second baseman Chone Figgins. One out.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
It counts as a single if he makes it to 1st base even if he does get thrown out trying to stretch it to a double.
seattle_since_81 - May 30, 2010
How stupid would "Aybar doubles on a bunt ground ball to shortstop Josh Wilson" have looked?
Schuxu - May 30, 2010
If Fister doesn't go deep tommorow
We are screwed
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Hyphen
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
No we're not.
Nobody except Kelley will likely be unavailable tomorrow
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Exactly
Who would fill Kelley’s role of Bullpen awesomeness?
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Ha!
Karma Police - May 30, 2010
This game has really exceeded a reasonable length
Corco - May 30, 2010
Kelley's strikeout to Izturis was the most lefty strike of all time
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
I don't care if that was a bad call on the Aybar play
We deserve a break.
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Because a ball hitting an umpire to give us a run was totally fair.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Meh
The way this season has gone, we deserve a lot of breaks to rebalance the karma.
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Maybe the gods would give us a title
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Or at least not another crap losing season.
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
As fair as Catcher's Interference
At this point I don’t care. We’ll take what we can get.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Catcher's interference is the fault of the catcher
Hitting an umpire is complete dumb luck. But whatever, lets get some runs.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
I know, I was pointing along the lines of "dumb random shit."
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
So the Aybar AB will take up extra room on the WE chart?
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Kelley is good.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
KK FUCK YEAH
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
What a pitch
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
<3 Shawn Kelley
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
KELLEY!!!!
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
SIT DOWN ABREU!
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Kelley for primary set-up man!
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
KELLEY!
Allen Wu - May 30, 2010
WHY THE FUCK WAS HE EVER SENT DOWN?
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Belief System™ and Sean White.
Big Jared - May 30, 2010
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE JUST GET 1 INSURANCE RUN
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
I just noticed
…Alfonzo is wearing a Tacoma Rainiers helmet while catching.
FrayLo - May 30, 2010
I thought he was, but I wasn't sure.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Maybe he has an abnormally large head and has to wait for a new one to be custom made
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Sucks Bradley's the only guy without a hit
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Holy crap Shawn Kelley's LOB% is hilariously high.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Oh no, I'm starting to feel comfortable...that's when the bad things happen.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
Rodney will not help you with that
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Don't worry, Aardsma soon!
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Oh that's right, I'm nervous again!
MFAN - May 30, 2010
I never feel comfortable because we are the Mariners
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Oh good its Rodney. We have a chance
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Sweeney gave it a nice try
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
C'mon Lopiewalk!
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Weee!
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
I'm glad Sims decided he needed to correct his LA Law mistake 3 hours after the fact
wetzelcoal - May 30, 2010
It was a trending topic on Twitter
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
LOPIE WALKS WOW
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
2 walks today!
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
crazy
ttotmax - May 30, 2010
Jose Lopez is very ambitious.
Cablinasian - May 30, 2010
SCORE RUNS NOW!
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
AMBITIOUS BUT REASONABLE
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
1/5th of the way to 50!!
MFAN - May 30, 2010
1/4th of the way through the season!
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Not yet he's not
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Oh, thought that was 10!
MFAN - May 30, 2010
Steal
ttotmax - May 30, 2010
Fuck No
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
This has honestly been one of the least entertaining games of baseball I have ever watched.
Should have known with the pitching matchup.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
And it's going to be at least 3.5 hours long.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
I wonder what the most pitches thrown in a 9 inning game is
and is this game getting close to it?
seattle_since_81 - May 30, 2010
It would have to be a high scoring game.
25-14 or something.
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
Jose Lopez wears earplugs because the sound of his thighs scraping together when he runs gives him a headache.
Fernando Rodney’s pickoff throws are why people hate baseball.
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
Kotchwalkit!
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
WOW KOTCH WALK
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Two years, $11m
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
DON'T EVER SWING
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Alfonzo vs. Rodney is one of those matchups you pay to see
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
If you live in Salt Lake City eight years ago
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
Where art thou, Langerhans?
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Is he still sore with his back?
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
I saw him chatting to Alfonzo in the dugout earlier so he's still alive, at least.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I honestly forgot he was even on the team
Stormton - May 30, 2010
Hahaha GIDP he fits right in
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Ugh/
Punkhazard - May 30, 2010
Should have fallen down Kotch
Matthew - May 30, 2010
MORE LIKE ALFONSLOW
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Now that's a pun!
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
DID YOU THINK OF THAT YOURSELF?!?
Coach Owens - May 30, 2010
I BELIEVE SO
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Here we go
Time to close the case.
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Based on a sample size of one at-bat Alfonzo blows
Nick S - May 30, 2010
All I ask is that this godforsaken game doesn't go into extras.
I’m a cynic.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Time for the DA heart attack.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
Time to be terrified
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
That necklace is awful
JLC - May 30, 2010
I hate to add to the side conversation
But i agree, her necklace is terrible
ambrosia2112 - May 30, 2010
I was also thinking this.
What is it? A mutated star?
Maury Povich - May 30, 2010
Buckle your seatbealts, men and women
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Three and a half hours of awesome baseball. And now some Aardsma!!!
Big Jared - May 30, 2010
Why would we not pinch hit there?
I understand he’s had a home run and 4 RBI today, but he’s Eliezer Alfonzo.
Also, Kotch easily could have gotten into more of a rundown to avoid the DP.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
With who?
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
GRIFFEY!
seattle_since_81 - May 30, 2010
One of the 3 lefties we have sitting around?
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Because that puts Rob Johnson behind the plate?
Good enough reason for me.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
I could go for some sextras right about now.
Bicycle Rider - May 30, 2010
Happy Holidays
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
The Diamondbacks' pitching staff has a HR/FB of 15.5%
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Oh boy it's this Aardsma
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
This is the only Aardsma.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
He pitched great last time out I think?
wazzu93 - May 30, 2010
But mostly he makes me have a heart attack.
wazzu93 - May 30, 2010
NOT A STRIKE
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE MORE WALKS
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Bad news
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Oh you bitch
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Damn
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Ball?
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT PITCH??
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Uh
Alto - May 30, 2010
OH FUCK YOU UMP
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Yeah that's a strike
Grady Clapp - May 30, 2010
Damn it, that was a strike.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Damn you karma!
FairWeatherFred - May 30, 2010
Umm, that was the most blatant strike I've ever seen.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
FUCK THIS FUCKING UMPIRE
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
So, that looked good,
MFAN - May 30, 2010
FUCK THIS UMP
K’D HIM TWICE
Baconburger - May 30, 2010
WOW
Egregious.
Matt Wilson - May 30, 2010
Par for this umpire's course
JLC - May 30, 2010
Looked like a strike to me.
Maybe Alfonso interfered by catching it?
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
I thought I missed the game, but they're still playing
ignacio - May 30, 2010
Just in time!!
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Sigh...
Walk off incoming.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
Sam Holbrook and the tale of the incredible shrinking strike zone
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Why do I feel like our chances of winning are like 25% right now?
chotz - May 30, 2010
That's why.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
40%
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
64 right now
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Holy shit.
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
If they hit a walk-off homerun
They get to test out their new walk-off proceedures
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Wow
Schuxu - May 30, 2010
HEART ATTACK CHRIST
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Wow.
w00tah - May 30, 2010
Whoa, I thought that was it
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
DA HEART ATTACK
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
Breathe, breathe
Too close.
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Oh my gawd..
JBell523 - May 30, 2010
Oh son of a bitch.
Bicycle Rider - May 30, 2010
Hahahahaha, damn.
Jackle Mackle - May 30, 2010
That was fucking terrifying
Alto - May 30, 2010
Well I'm going to need a new pair of pants
JLC - May 30, 2010
David Aardsma, everyone.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Oh Jesus I thought that was gone
ignacio - May 30, 2010
I'm beginning to think warning track fly balls are a skill.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Beltre agrees.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
whew....
WestCoastBias. - May 30, 2010
I fucking hate Aardsma so much
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
This is the scariest rollercoaster I've ever been on
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
I wish Sweeney was here, I could use a hug after that
wetzelcoal - May 30, 2010
OK WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
This is the most amazing game I have ever seen.
Goose - May 30, 2010
At least its only one base
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Good fucking God
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
CATCH THE BALL YOU TWAT
Grady Clapp - May 30, 2010
He had a reaction time of literally 0 seconds.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
I know
Half-joking.
My thoughts: YES NO YES NO NOOOOOO
Grady Clapp - May 30, 2010
He did catch it, but it rubber-gloved.
:(
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Oh my god
Alto - May 30, 2010
ANGELS BASEBALL
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
That was almost a game ending double play
Matthew - May 30, 2010
Surprise!
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
God damnit
We lose
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
This team is going to give me a heart attack.
craig3410 - May 30, 2010
That would have been sexy
JBell523 - May 30, 2010
Yup.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
NOT A STRIKE
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
What the fuck do you do if you're the runner on that play?
Goose - May 30, 2010
Freeze in case its caught
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Lunge five different directions at once.
seattle_since_81 - May 30, 2010
So stand still?
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
OH MY GOD
Aardsma needs an extra inch on his wingspan.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
Or some glue in his fucking glove
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Holy balls we got a low strike call
JLC - May 30, 2010
A COUPLE OF BATTERS TOO FUCKING LATE
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I'd have rather we got it with Matsui.
Yaten - May 30, 2010
Please K.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Somwhere, Buffalo Wild Wings is involved in this
Grady Clapp - May 30, 2010
I chuckled.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
This made me laugh.
But I fucking hate that commercial.
ABQmsFan - May 30, 2010
Shit
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
Leverage index must be insane on this pitch
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Gameday hates the ump something fierce.
Jon S. - May 30, 2010 via mobile
He took it's jerb.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Doesn't show him making any bad calls this AB
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
GIDP. PLEASE.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Throw a fucking strike you cock fucking twat bitch ass fuckwad
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Please
craig3410 - May 30, 2010
Moron
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Glad he swung at ball four.
Yaten - May 30, 2010
This is madness
JBell523 - May 30, 2010
Damn, we coulda had a baserunner there, according to the radiocast.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Please, God, I don't ask for much. Just give me a win!
chotz - May 30, 2010
god says no
longwinded - May 30, 2010
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
EequalsMc2 - May 30, 2010
FUCK!
skywaker9 - May 30, 2010
Amazing
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
WE SUCK.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Yawn.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
FUCK THIS GODDAMN GAME OF BASEBALL
Schuxu - May 30, 2010
Bahahahahahaha
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Had to happen
Jackle Mackle - May 30, 2010
Oh yeah there it is
JLC - May 30, 2010
Figures
ignacio - May 30, 2010
OH NO FUCKING WAY
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
Fuck this year.
Bicycle Rider - May 30, 2010
Well, huh
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Yep, that's how that had to end.
Goose - May 30, 2010
Fuck you Aardsma
ambrosia2112 - May 30, 2010
And
Fuck Colome and Kanekoa
ambrosia2112 - May 30, 2010
I hate baseball
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
HAPPY FUCKING MEMORIAL DAY!!!!!!!!
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Jesus Tapdancing Christ
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
NO!!!
IlliniM - May 30, 2010
Fuck.
jwolf0 - May 30, 2010
That was so fucking predictable.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
Break your ankle you twat.
FairWeatherFred - May 30, 2010
...and you are 12 right?
That is horrible.
K3YEROUT - May 30, 2010
SOMEONE SET AARDSMA ON FIRE
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
FUCK
JHobbs - May 30, 2010
What, no jump at the plate?
Goose - May 30, 2010
Colome is good.
w00tah - May 30, 2010
Un-Fucking-Believable.
chotz - May 30, 2010
HO-LY CRAP.
ewakio - May 30, 2010
FUCK YOUR ASS WITH A GIANT CHEESE GRATER AARDSMA
Big Jared - May 30, 2010
FUCK THIS SHITHOLE TEAM
AND EAT A DICK, AARDSMA
craig3410 - May 30, 2010
Pathetic. I quit.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Thank God that's over.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
FUCK YOU ANGELS AND BULLPEN.
WestCoastBias. - May 30, 2010
Almost 4 hours of my life I'll never have back
exquisitedeadguy - May 30, 2010
FUCK YOU LIFE
JBell523 - May 30, 2010
It really was just like last year!
Alto - May 30, 2010
Not a bad pitch
Matthew - May 30, 2010
It really wasn't. Up and in, no idea how he hit that out to right center
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Didn't realize Kendrick had that kind of power
Pretty impressed
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
He has his flashes.
TheAngelsColts - May 30, 2010
It was well-hit
It also seemed to have a bit of carry to it. I was surprised it went out. Regardless, it’s not like it was a meatball like League’s pitch to Morales yesterday. I’m not terribly mad at Aardsma.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Warm day, wind blowing out
Usually a double
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Season Over.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
SAW THAT COMING
JHobbs - May 30, 2010
BREAK YOUR FUCKING ANKLE, ASSHOLE
craig3410 - May 30, 2010
See that's just mean-spirited
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
i can't even blame Aardsma, I feel like we were destined to lose that one.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
how many games this year have we lost after being ahead in the 8th?
longwinded - May 30, 2010
7-2 lead!
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Contraction
Turn Safeco into a parking garage.
OceanBird - May 30, 2010
AARDSMAARGH
craig3410 - May 30, 2010
Aardsmagression!
JLC - May 30, 2010
Aardsmageddon.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Catchy.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
He's on fire today
Kermit. - May 30, 2010
Aardsmregression.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
I am done forever.
MarinerFaninAZ - May 30, 2010
WE COME AGAIN!
Grady Clapp - May 30, 2010
Maybe the secret to winning is to have more people thrown out on the basepaths.
We don’t do that nearly enough.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
I can see where Don Quixote was coming from..
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
He must have been a Mariners fan.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
We don't?
ignacio - May 30, 2010
Fuck this, I'm going to Folklife.
Jeremariner - May 30, 2010
Meh.
Goose - May 30, 2010
Well, that just happened.
eponymous_coward - May 30, 2010
I'm so sorry, LL.
Life is not being fair to you. At all. That fucking sucked.
Leopold Bloom - May 30, 2010
Thanks for the support.
:(
Jackle Mackle - May 30, 2010
It's fair.
We’re really that terrible.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
You guys are so similar to us, it's not real.
We just seem to win the 1-run games this year and y’all seem to be losing them all. And two walk off wins, especially against the hated Slegna is not fair.
Leopold Bloom - May 30, 2010
We're really that terrible though.
Every game has about 3 or four ridiculous baserunning mistakes, among many, many other things. This team loses games on its own. It’s not just the 8th inning onward – most of the runs this team scores are undeserved, and it purposely tries to score less runs throughout the game, and that’s not even discussing the bullpen management. It’s really not a good team. This is a bad team.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
I'd call it a decent team playing poorly
Matthew - May 30, 2010
I'm not convinced of this.
Depending on how you define “decent.”
CapSea - May 30, 2010
.500-ish
Matthew - May 30, 2010
.500 or real close will win the west.
Leopold Bloom - May 30, 2010
For discussion:
1) Do you consider the massive amount of baserunning errors a lack of skill or simply poor playing?
2) wOBAr is based on previous BABIP for individual outcomes, but is it possible that they are simply hitting it much worse?
3) Our bullpen, a should-be strength, was made worse by the changes to League’s delivery, Colome, Aardsma’s struggles, etc..
I have a feeling I have a different answer to these than you, so to me this is a less than decent team.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
This is really painful for me =(
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Also, one of these days I'd like to break into an "All offense, no defense vs no offense, all defense" discussion.
But at the moment I’m not sure how to write out my thoughts.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
We really did not deserve to win that game.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
As fans we did though
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Fuck yeah I did.
Bicycle Rider - May 30, 2010
You guys are solid.
Leopold Bloom - May 30, 2010
Please win the west.
You’re the only other AL West team I can stand, and we’re obviously not going to.
Rowsdower - May 30, 2010
Also, it would be nice to have a team to point to that proves this model can work.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I'm really not convinced it can.
One of these days I’ll use a fanpost to illustrate some thoughts on the idea.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Right, read AC's.
I’m not convinced that our team’s talent could make this work.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
This model can work.
This collection of talent is not good enough to make it work.
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
I still would like to see this team with better on-field management, fewer injuries, and better luck
I really think this team was constructed well
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
This team was constructed where some things had to work out.
Almost none of them have. Plus, we’re terribly unlucky. Thus, we suck.
Kinda makes GMZ’s optimism in the Times a bit, erm, out of place though.
eponymous_coward - May 30, 2010
The back of the rotation
and Lopez’s move to 3B have worked out wonderfully. More than wonderfully. It’s not like everything has gone wrong. You can contribute much of it to bad luck, but the roster just wasn’t constructed to win this division. It’s not GMZ’s fault, of course. Too many constraints.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Part of the back of the rotation's worked out OK.
Keep in mind Snell and RRS are a chunk of “back of the rotation”.
If you don’t think the non-Griff/Sweendawg parts of the roster hitting at career norms and an extra month of Cliff Lee would have us ~.500, I really don’t know what to say, other than “I think you’re wrong”. The Rangers are 26-23, and I don’t see why a roster like this isn’t capable of contending IF most of it isn’t hitting below the Mendoza line.
eponymous_coward - May 30, 2010
We've had our share of bad luck.
That being said, it was a very risk-filled roster. It was counting on performances out of Kotchman, Vargas, Fister, Griffey, Bradley, and a handful of relievers. None were a certainty. A few panned out, a few didn’t. We couldn’t have anticipated Lopez and Figgins struggling this badly, but I don’t think career average performances from them would have saved this team. We would still probably be in it, but the talent just isn’t there.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
I'd say that it was constructed well, given the situation (cumulative Bavasi buttfuck to the farm system and major league organization, weak FA class, and apparent budget constraints).
Obviously, there are several players on this roster that you wouldn’t normally expect on a “well-constructed” team, but I have to keep reminding myself that the M’s lost 101 games just a month and a half ago. That we even expect to do well is saying something.
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
A month and a half ago?
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
Whoops,
Year and a half ago. I should type and read at the same time.
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
How did we lose so many games in mid April
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
I think it was constructed with a great deal of inherent risk.
The risks didn’t work out, or at least haven’t so far. It was probably close to as well put together as it could have been, but the bust potential was there and it appears to have been realized.
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
Yes. I am absolutely rooting for the A's if we can't do it
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Seconded.
I have so much respect for that team, even if I do want to punch a baby whenever we play them.
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
Rationally, I feel I shouldn't hate the Rangers.
They’re well-constructed with a shitload of young talent, including some I love, like Andrus. Maybe I just don’t like Michael Young.
And I really love Brett Anderson.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
Meh, they're chair-throwers.
Leopold Bloom - May 30, 2010
:'(
sniffles on shoulder
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
So.. uuhhhh.... can you finally make those changes Jack Z?
Because this is utterly pathetic.
TWownsU - May 30, 2010
We did that last year too, kinda.
ThundaPC - May 30, 2010
Tropic of Cairo, here we come!
Do they serve drinks on the beach there?
eponymous_coward - May 30, 2010
Disgusting game absolutely disgusting
I’m glad I didn’t decide to pay money to see this one.
bluemax - May 30, 2010
SEASON OVER
TRADE LEE FOR A TALENTED LITTLE LEAGUER
FIRE AARDSMA INTO THE SUN
FORCE GRIFFEY TO RETIRE AT GUNPOINT
craig3410 - May 30, 2010
1 of those I'd agree with....
WestCoastBias. - May 30, 2010
"FIRE AARDSMA INTO THE SUN"
This phrase pops up ever now and then, but never fails to amuse me.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
Thanks awesome bullpen and your 5 run lead. Except you, Kelley-you're great.
wazzu93 - May 30, 2010
Maybe they should change Kelley's delivery for funsies.
CapSea - May 30, 2010
Such a bullshit inning.
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
The only surprising thing was that Torii Hunter didn't hit the walk-off
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Or Kendry Morales, Kirk Gibson style.
MFAN - May 30, 2010
Agree!
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Thats what I was thinking when I saw him on deck
TheAngelsColts - May 30, 2010
Somehow I forgot that Torii had two i's in his name
What a li’l bitch
Nick S - May 30, 2010
Tori is a girl's name.
Fuckmikereilly - May 30, 2010
I wish sports were more fun.
waldo rojas - May 30, 2010
Losing can be fun
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
This may sound stupid, but I'd be more comfortable with Kelley closing.
SeaKoala - May 30, 2010
Not stupid at all.
But then I’m one of the most anti-Aardsma people you’ll find.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
I know it's mostly irrational, but I pretty much hate Aardsma at this point.
Jeff Nye - May 30, 2010
I don't think it's irrational at all.
I hate using pitchers like Aardsma in high-leverage situations.
Aaron Campeau - May 30, 2010
I'd be more comfortable with Bobby Ayala closing.
craig3410 - May 30, 2010
I wish I had shut off the TV when I had the chance.
Bicycle Rider - May 30, 2010
I, on the other hand, am feeling quite validated.
Jeff Nye - May 30, 2010
Oh wow. I left and came back. And...this.
Just wow.
esoteric - May 30, 2010
At least there's alcohol and a holiday tomorrow-whee!
wazzu93 - May 30, 2010
3 home runs for the DA on the year, after having 4 all of last year.
Remember when he took offense to any talk of regression?
Janic - May 30, 2010
Disregard women, acquire currency.
.Taylor - May 30, 2010
Wisdom.
Janic - May 30, 2010
I wonder what happens if the umpire is, you know, competent
and calls those two pitches in the Matsui at-bat strikes?
Coach Owens - May 30, 2010
We had our fair share of breaks in this game as well.
Eyeball Kid - May 30, 2010
The umpires helped both of us
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Then Kendrick homers with 2 outs instead of one.
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
Responding to trolls helps absolutely nothing.
Knock it off. You will be disciplined.
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
I'm tired of watching this team.
They are miserable to watch, Wak keeps sending in Colome, and it’s time to blow this train of crap up.
Someone wants Lee? Great, trade him. Get something worth it.
Someone wants Lopez? Gone.
Someone wants Figgins? Bye.
Someone wants RR-S and Snell? Bucket of balls.
Someone wants Fister and Vargas? Buy low, sell high.
Felix, Guti, and Ichiro are staying. Everyone else is on the table, and we’ll take what we can get.
Roscoe’s Carpet Emporium.Roscoe’s Carpet Emporium.
Henry Valz - May 30, 2010
I love carpet
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Oh what didn't notice the carpet part
Odd
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Yeah trading Figgins seems real likely
Griffin Cooper - May 30, 2010
Umm... this won't solve much.
Unless you plan on getting better pitchers than Vargas, Snell, RRS, and Fister for Figgins and Lopez and better 2nd/3rd basemen than Lopez and Figgins for Vargas, Snell, Fister, and RRS.
Matt Erickson - May 30, 2010
Apparently the Angels are looking for a first baseman. I know where they can get one.
Henry Valz - May 30, 2010
Wow, good thing we got to watch 3.5 hours of baseball
Corco - May 30, 2010
I'm still curious about the Jeff spoke of.
wazzu93 - May 30, 2010
What?
Jeff Sullivan - May 30, 2010
Oops-the bet.
wazzu93 - May 30, 2010
When you put together Aardsma, League, Sean White etc
this bullpen has really blown a lot of games.
ignacio - May 30, 2010
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