The inevitable Cliff Lee trade is the only thing keeping me going.
We have no young players to bring up until then. It seems like most really terrible years we at least had some young talent to try out, which is always kind of fun. But unless Fields gets a chance, I can’t see anyone ready to contribute. So hopefully Cliff brings us one near-major league ready prospect that can bring us excitement.
It seems that we always go into drafts with a budget, though.
So as deep as next year’s draft supposedly is, we’d likely have to have “budget targets” with our Lee picks. This is one of the bigger reasons I’d rather see Lee traded.
It could even drive prices up, because remember whoever gets Lee can get 2 draft picks for letting him walk.
It’s not just US that gets to think about Lee’s draft picks. Teams are paying for Cliff Lee and 2 draft picks for themselves, significantly increasing his value.
is that while the teams are getting those picks, a lot of teams seem to almost refuse to acknowledge that reality when trading for Type A FAs. Return for players like Lee has been way down the past few years.
But with that being said, this is one of those situations where if Dave Cameron thinks my viewpoint is wrong I am inclined to agree with him.
I just think it’s important to remember what it took to get Cliff Lee, with an entire year left on his contract. I’d rather have draft picks than that collection of talent.
At least we got to see an Ichi-blast.
Slow Country - June 14, 2010
Forgiveness
Even Jesus wouldn’t give Ian Snell this many chances.
bamassippi - June 14, 2010 via mobile
Fuck yes we won
Robert - June 14, 2010
Biggest Suckfest: 2010
lemonverbena - June 14, 2010
A WPA-styled graph of the 2010 season might be entertaining, actually
Jeff Nye - June 14, 2010
Odds of PLAYOFFS! are kinda sad.
pmc47 - June 14, 2010
Sounds like Loafie just about knocked Pujols out cold with that throw to the back of the head
Amazing call by Niehaus on the radio, Pujols staggering into the dugout after retouching the plate. Loafie can sure be a lot of fun once in awhile
Kermit. - June 14, 2010
I never expected us to win so there was zero pain.
Saunders got a hit. I’m just waiting for the Cliff Lee trade and for the team to reload or go to hell.
ignacio - June 14, 2010
The inevitable Cliff Lee trade is the only thing keeping me going.
We have no young players to bring up until then. It seems like most really terrible years we at least had some young talent to try out, which is always kind of fun. But unless Fields gets a chance, I can’t see anyone ready to contribute. So hopefully Cliff brings us one near-major league ready prospect that can bring us excitement.
We also have Saunders, when he plays.
Fuckmikereilly - June 14, 2010
I'm going to pour pixie stick powder down my pee hole if Z holds on to Lee out of some unholy love of draft picks.
RustyJohn - June 14, 2010
You truly
are the monk lighting himself on fire in protest.
boyonthedock - June 14, 2010
I'll do it in front of Safeco if it happens and call KIRO7 before hand.
RustyJohn - June 14, 2010
And it will be but another photo that shocks the world.
qrsouther - June 14, 2010
There's a very good chance that the draft picks are more valuable than what we could get in a trade
Aaron Campeau - June 14, 2010
It seems that we always go into drafts with a budget, though.
So as deep as next year’s draft supposedly is, we’d likely have to have “budget targets” with our Lee picks. This is one of the bigger reasons I’d rather see Lee traded.
katal - June 14, 2010
If the draft is deep though, isn't that likely to drive prices down somewhat?
Aaron Campeau - June 14, 2010
True true.
katal - June 14, 2010
Is there much of a guarantee that we wouldn't just spread the money around?
As some would argue we did last year? Other teams also punted their picks based on signability this year.
JY - June 14, 2010
On the contrary
It could even drive prices up, because remember whoever gets Lee can get 2 draft picks for letting him walk.
It’s not just US that gets to think about Lee’s draft picks. Teams are paying for Cliff Lee and 2 draft picks for themselves, significantly increasing his value.
HititHere - June 15, 2010
I'm not quite sure, but I think acblue was referring to the price for which said draft picks would sign.
Not the price trading Cliff Lee would fetch.
JLProck - June 15, 2010
Aaron's not an idiot and is clearly referring to the price of signing bonuses.
Matthew - June 15, 2010
So maybe I should have responded to this comment:
“There’s a very good chance that the draft picks are more valuable than what we could get in a trade”
I was suggesting Lee’s value in trade will be higher than the draft picks, because the club getting Lee will get the picks as well.
HititHere - June 15, 2010
I wasn't calling anyone an idiot
I just thought Aaron’s post made it seem like he had forgotten that fact. If I assumed incorrectly, I apologize.
HititHere - June 15, 2010
The important thing to keep in mind
is that while the teams are getting those picks, a lot of teams seem to almost refuse to acknowledge that reality when trading for Type A FAs. Return for players like Lee has been way down the past few years.
But with that being said, this is one of those situations where if Dave Cameron thinks my viewpoint is wrong I am inclined to agree with him.
Aaron Campeau - June 15, 2010
That's true--look at the Sabathia deal...
LaPorta and change, and then the Brewers got to restock with 2 extra draft picks. I would have expected a bigger price.
Dave’s article on USSM is really good (just don’t read the painful comments). We’ll see if his predictions turn out.
HititHere - June 15, 2010
LaPorta hasn't performed that well to date, but he was a well-regarded prospect.
Michael Brantley is also somewhat interesting.
abender20 - June 15, 2010
LaPorta was considered a pretty decent haul two years ago.
katal - June 15, 2010
Also, we can't forget the fact that those picks come a year later with more risk and a longer path to the majors.
You don’t have to get the same caliber of prospect in a trade to make it equal in value.
abender20 - June 14, 2010
Definitely
I just think it’s important to remember what it took to get Cliff Lee, with an entire year left on his contract. I’d rather have draft picks than that collection of talent.
Aaron Campeau - June 14, 2010
I agree in principle, although it's hard to know what Philly thought they were getting, value wise.
abender20 - June 14, 2010
Yep.
The point is, we don’t know and it’s silly to assume that taking the draft picks is a major failing on the part of the FO.
Aaron Campeau - June 14, 2010
Likely, even.
qrsouther - June 14, 2010
Adam Moore has been absolutely destroying the ball in his 5 games of rehab.
Fuckmikereilly - June 14, 2010
I didn't even know he was an alcoholic.
JLProck - June 14, 2010
He became one after watching Rob Johnson start- "I'm losing a starting job to this guy?"
RustyJohn - June 14, 2010
His "Rob dropped a ball" drinking game probably wasn't helping.
JLProck - June 14, 2010
Along with taking a shot everytime Wak says, "Belief System."
RustyJohn - June 14, 2010
You'd think he would have outgrown the habit by now
lemonverbena - June 14, 2010
Bringing Snell in with the game in reach is the same as giving up.
Who does Wak think he is? A fan?!
Gekko Mojo - June 14, 2010
Well, I hope is the last we see of Snell.
ignacio - June 14, 2010
.
abender20 - June 14, 2010
So you're saying there's a chance?
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Wilder. - June 14, 2010
There's a chance.
Fin - June 14, 2010
Don't really care about wins and losses anymore.
Ichiro got a dinger, so I’m satisfied.
Benne - June 14, 2010
It also appears Jose attempted to kill Albert.
Fuck you Jose. Just because he hits real home runs doesn’t mean you can get all pissy. Little bitch.
the other side - June 15, 2010
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