Along with the so-called heat wave this week came fabulously clear skies. I don't know if it is just because we get them so infrequently, but brilliantly clear skies are always a wonder for me in Seattle. The beauty surrounding this city is tough to beat anywhere in the world and when given the opportunity to view it without obstruction nature really offers something special here.
I have a particular spot in the city for gazing out to Elliott Bay and I happened to walk by it yesterday afternoon and out of reflex glanced westward. I stopped walking. The view that I had was why I live in Seattle. The dark blue of the water matched the impossibly uniform cerulean blue of the sky and sitting between those two were the snow-capped mountains of the Olympics.
The peaks hovered there as if photoshopped into my eyes. They were so clear that I could make out individual ridges and the peaks were so discernable that I felt as if I could reach out and grab some snow to help cool down. It demanded awe. This scene provoked both humility and inspiration all at once.
Cliff Lee is a little bit like that. I know Lee isn't a newcomer just bursting onto the scene like Felix in 2005 and wowing everyone with what he can do. Lee has been around and many others knew him already. He was never a Mariner though and there is a difference between neutrally following a player from afar and watching him play in your jersey.
Lee makes his mark not from the jaw-dropping stuff like Felix and so many other marquee pitchers. Rather it is from his exacting precision. Cliff Lee doesn't bring anything to the table that we have never seen before. He cannot throw a 90mph changeup, a 100mph fastball with movement or a slider that's untouchable. What Lee does is take what he does have and repeat it time and again, over and over, doing precisely what he wants with it. Instead of being the Swiss army knife of pitchers, Lee is the Swiss watch. He is simply pitching, perfected.
There are reasoned and detached arguments in support of keeping Cliff Lee around as long as possible. He helps to win games which helps keep attendance up. Our GM Jack Zduriencik recently cited winning games and maintaining a winning attitude as a reason for acquiring Russell Branyan. The ultimate goal is obviously a championship, but I feel having a watchable product on the field to be a companion goal. The people that inhabit this website are among the most dedicated of fans and how many of us checked out in 2008? How many checked out on this year? To what joy is there when a baseball season is over by the month of May?
Cliff Lee seems to have taken at least a token leadership role on this team and perhaps his leadership rubs off on some of other pitchers. Keeping Cliff Lee through the end of the season probably slightly increases the odds that he would sign with Seattle this coming winter, if that is something you prefer to see. If he doesn't, he's nearly assured of Type A compensation at this point.
There are a couple other reasons as well. Overall, do they cancel out the obvious benefits to trading him? It is unlikely. However, it is impossible to tell because none of us has an insight into what trade offers Zduriencik is actually receiving for Lee, how they feel about those prospects, how the amateur scouting team is feeling about the talent in the 2011 draft or how the budgeting process is looking. The amount that we do not, and cannot, know exceeds what we do.
Regardless, this is not an overview of objective arguments in favor of the Mariners keeping Cliff Lee. Cliff Lee is going to be traded, likely within the next week and compiling reasons to not trade him feels like pissing into the wind at this point. Rather, I am just saddened that this is how things have turned out. I understand the excitement over the prospects that are likely heading here shortly but I also find it slightly off putting. There will be plenty of time to be excited about the new players, but for now I feel sorrow that we had Cliff Lee and couldn't make anything of it. What do we follow the day-to-day actions of the Seattle Mariners for if it is not to be able to glimpse players like Cliff Lee?
To be explicitly clear, I am not arguing for the Mariners to keep Cliff Lee. I certainly would like him to stay around, but I know that based on the trade return it is almost certainly not the organizationally prudent move. This is not like Jarrod Washburn last season though where I was all gung ho about trading him. Washburn was a roughly average player with no specifically endearing qualities to me. He had an unexpectedly good season and offered the team a chance to reap some future benefit. Jarrod Washburn's 2009 was like finding a $20 bill in a pair of pants that you were just about ready to donate to Goodwill.
Cliff Lee is special though. I was never attached to Jarrod Washburn, but Cliff Lee made an instant impact. I was smitten from his first start. I could see the talent right away, sure, but all the little things helped push it past the usual interest in a new player. I love pitching and I love quick pitching most of all. That Cliff Lee was both the fastest pitcher I have ever seen and at the same time the most refined is a beautiful combination to witness.
Like Felix Hernandez or Ichiro Suzuki, Lee has reached a level for me that I don't view him in the same way that I do most other players. I don't keep track of his current and projected WAR totals. I don't think of him as a piece to an ultimate puzzle of building a winning team under a certain budget. I view Cliff Lee as entertaining. I view Cliff Lee as a personification of why I like baseball.
Lee demands attention. Not just from us, but from others. Having Cliff Lee in our rotation makes us respectable. The Yankees are reportedly demanding an answer from Zduriencik today because they don't want to face him tonight. How many other players could evoke such a reaction? Teams scheduled to face us must pray to avoid the Lee-Felix combo.
Cliff Lee will soon be another team's joy to behold and I wish that were not to be. Cliff Lee has pitched as well as we could reasonably hope anybody ever to pitch over such a long stretch. I am well aware that does not guarantee that Lee would continue to pitch at that level going forward, but there's nobody with a better chance of doing it and I want to hold onto that as long as possible.
Yeah the Royals just swept us, but the Yankees don't want to face Cliff Lee. Cliff Lee the Mariner.
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I think this season having gone to shit
Makes trading Lee easier for me to stomach. If this team had been at contention basically ever (or at least since April), I’d have developed a stronger attachment, but since the team was basically toast by the time he came back, I just never could quite commit to him, especially since it quickly became clear he was going to be traded midseason.
None of this has anything to do with Lee, who’s been utterly tremendous to watch and a class act all season. It’s weird and sad to feel this, but it definitely seems like he deserves better, and it would have been somewhat sad to watch such a great pitcher spend the rest of this season pitching in meaningless games. Yeah, I’d have enjoyed some of it, but I’m not sure Cliff would have.
Sportszilla - July 9, 2010
The team would have been atop the AL West if they had won Cliff Lee's first start.
Matthew - July 9, 2010
True
I suppose what I meant to say was that as the season became more and more of a lost cause, my reaction was to divest myself more and more from the team and the players, especially those who were unlikely to be around after this year. As a result, watching Lee was more painful than enjoyable in a “what could have been” sense.
Sportszilla - July 9, 2010
This is too fucking beautiful for words in my opinion.
We swapped three averagish prospects to watch the graceful Cliff Lee for 3 months and turn him into a blue-chip stud and at least one guy who would rate at least as good as the three guys we gave up. Master stroke by Jack in a near win-win situation when the first Cliff Lee trade went down.
Kenneth Arthur - July 9, 2010
Is it just me or were we right in the middle of the race when he came back? 11-11?
Kenneth Arthur - July 9, 2010
Indeed.. right at .500
seattlesundevil - July 9, 2010
Beautiful.
royalcurve - July 9, 2010
Can't we work something out here, fellas?
RangerFloppy - July 9, 2010
I haven't had internet for three weeks.
This was a beautiful welcome-back post.
E-Lizz - July 9, 2010
Worst case scenerio...
The sadness of this trade could be turned to 11 if the Lee is wearing Yankee gray tonight and embarrasses Kotchman 3 times.
doublemazaa - July 9, 2010
I think it was Davidoff (?) that said there would be an agreement that Lee doesn't start against us at all this weekend.
seattlesundevil - July 9, 2010
It was Joel Sherman
SeaKoala - July 9, 2010
They really are all blending together for me at this point.
seattlesundevil - July 9, 2010
God I hope so.
Seeing Cliff walking onto the Safeco mound in Yankee colors would break my heart.
jwolf0 - July 9, 2010
On the otherhand,
How ‘bout they sent Lee out tomorrow against Felix? That’s be fun.
doublemazaa - July 9, 2010
I'd rather see Lee start against us
I enjoy watching him. Sure it sucks he won’t be on our team but it would still be enjoyable.
Edgar for Pres - July 9, 2010
Great article Matthew.
“I view Cliff Lee as a personification of why I like baseball.” Just a wonderful statement.
Jed MC - July 9, 2010
Just going to post that
I don’t post on here often, I’m more of a lurker as I don’t fully understand all of the sabermetrics often used here.
When I played ball, I had a feeling after a game of whether or not I positively impacted the game. All of the characteristics and above quote are why I’m Lee fan for life… Even if that means cheering (under my breathe) while he pitches for the Yankees. Damn the Yankees.
GU.AmericasTeam - July 9, 2010
Awesome article, Matthew. It's just so sad.
Reading your post makes me long for home, and I just won’t be able to stop puking if Lee goes to the Evil Empire. Please, please…if we have to lose him, let it be to any other team besides the Yankees.
Leanna - July 9, 2010
I always wanted the M's to add Greg Maddux somehow
and when Z went out and traded for Lee, it obviously wasn’t exactly the same, but it counted. I hoped against hope that everything would go right this season, and maybe somehow he’d stay. Instead, everything that could go wrong did, and some that couldn’t did anyway, making this inevitable . . . it will be cool to see the players we get back, and I’m excited that it looks like we’ll be adding Montero, making this a big “Well done!” to Jack — but you know what? Trading off Cliff Lee still sucks.
The Ancient Mariner - July 9, 2010
Cliff Lee:
The Yankee people don’t hate.
FairWeatherFred - July 9, 2010
I like a lot of Yankees
Aaron Campeau - July 9, 2010
Mariano is one of my favorite players.
Fuckmikereilly - July 9, 2010
I'm a Montero fan.
Kenneth Arthur - July 9, 2010
I agree with all of that
And have calmed down a bit from yesterday’s bitterness after reading Lee’s comments about an extension. I suspect that, on the verge of being traded to what will be his fourth team in two seasons, Cliff blew off some steam and framed the situation so it doesn’t look like his demands for a big contract are forcing all these trades. I do think he has earned taking his comments at something close to face value though—he made overtures to management about an extension, and Z said, Let’s wait and get you acclimated to the team. Personally I think that’s a flawed approach, but it’s a reasonable one. They would have had to get something done very quickly before Lee shut it down with the abdominal injury, at which point an extension wouldn’t have made sense.
The only part of that I don’t agree with the FO on is not being willing to have a discussion. If the shiny new pitcher you just acquired says he would like to talk extension, it might be a good idea to at least sit down and be receptive to the idea, out of courtesy and good will if nothing else. Instead the Mariners created a situation with only two options: be in the pennant race and warrant keeping him the whole year, or move him before July 31. Assuming they projected the first option, it would have behooved them to at least see what it might take to lock him up before the season and impending free agency, when if he and the team were good enough to last that long, he would have an even higher value and be that much harder to re-sign. They were counting on the Belief System and feel-good clubhouse vibes to win him over.
I still applaud Jack’s trade to get him, but the path he drew up after that looks like it was designed for a one-year or less rental all along. And ownership appears to have put a hard cap on payroll so maybe we never have a chance to keep him in the first place. In which case, shit, reality.
lemonverbena - July 9, 2010
Nailed it
And saved me an article!
Jeff Sullivan - July 9, 2010
Well done.
Thank you again for your work. I want Mr. Lee to stay forever.
InSpokane - July 9, 2010
Congratulations Seattle.
You’re about to get a Top 5 prospect for a guy you essentially stole from Philly. Montero has all the potential to possibly be the next Edgar.
CasanovaWong - July 9, 2010
We should keep him in the minors for the next 8 years just to make sure that he is ready.
Robert - July 9, 2010
Calgary is the ideal proving ground
lemonverbena - July 9, 2010
We need to find a good artificial turf field for him to break in/break down his knees.
yuniform - July 9, 2010
At least then we can keep him during his prime.
lailaihei - July 9, 2010
The only thing Rob Johnson ever blocked.
FairWeatherFred - July 9, 2010
I have loved watching Cliff pitch, but also have not been as attached as some.
That being said what you wrote here almost brings a tear to my eye. Well done sir.
Sec 108 - July 9, 2010
Matthew, this is a spectacular piece.
flashbeak - July 9, 2010
I'm sure Zdurencik can stall another 12 hours
Poochie - July 9, 2010 via mobile
Don't want to start him just in case.
Robert - July 9, 2010
Shaping up to be a very weird day at the ballpark no matter what
lemonverbena - July 9, 2010
Yeah, I'm rather anxious about going to the game tonight.
sanford_and_son - July 9, 2010
I'm really, really glad I could go to a couple of Cliff Lee starts...
So much fun. Opening Lee day and one of his CGs. Such an amazing pitcher to watch, let’s hope Felix learned a lot from Lee’s short stay here.
lailaihei - July 9, 2010
This is really, really well written.
To mine some potentially new territory, I’d like to point out that it has been really refreshing to have:
a) a major player acquisition in which the player not only met our huge expectations but actually exceeded them.
b) a major player acquisition that made the team much better this year and, far from hamstringing the future, actually helps build it. Bavasi made moves to help the team win in the short term; those moves usually didn’t help because they required everything to go perfectly to work. They also came at the cost of hurting future competitiveness. The Cliff Lee transactions not only really helped the teams, but they were well thought-through – even when the season went unexpectedly pear-shaped, we knew we’d come out of the Cliff Lee adventure in a better position than when we entered it. That’s amazing and hugely refreshing.
Chris Hafner - July 9, 2010
Thats a very good point,
When we got Lee I was excited for the future, now that we’re trading him I feel pretty much the same way. Not something I’m used too.
FairWeatherFred - July 9, 2010
Why now?
I’m going to the game tonight and I thought I’d be seeing Criff’s last start as a Mariner. Doesn’t look like it now, though…
Coach Owens - July 9, 2010
Yeah, should be interesting.
sanford_and_son - July 9, 2010
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