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Biggest Contribution: King Felix, +57.7%
Biggest Suckfest: Brandon League, -20.1%
Most Important AB: Moore single, +26.2%
Most Important Pitch: Kendrick double, -22.7%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +44.7%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +3.8%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +1.5%
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Felix Hernandez is really good at baseball.
You know, I agree with you.
But if we had traded him to Boston last year, we would've received Clay Buchholz and Jed Lowrie + couple other bonafide prospects.

That’d be a very good trade from the Mariners perspective, as Buchholz has developed into an ace this year.

Felix is Ours and They Can't Have Him
That's true, and he's the reason I am still watching. But what's wrong with getting Clay Buchholz?
He isn't Felix
He's also about $10M cheaper than Felix and under club control for another 5 years.
Felix is better, he is signed for five more years and Felix is Felix.
I am not disputing Felix is better. But the trade isn't Buchholz for Felix straight up. It's Buchholz + others for Felix.
Still would not have been worth it.
And that doesn't even mention the fact that we don't know what was offered.
Probably only Theo and Jack Z. knew. But it was supposed to be pick 4 out of the top 8 Red Sox prospects at that time, and

both Buchholz and Lowrie were on it. I think Daniel Bard was also on it too.

Lowrie is bad if I remember correctly, Bard is a reliever, Buchholz is not an ace and none of the are as good as Felix
Lowrie's been good this year.

But he wasn’t on the purported list anyway.

(in 90 plate appearances, so never mind)
Lowrie has averaged .7 WAR a year over his career.
Limited play and all that but yeah.
Yeah, I just glanced too quickly. My bad.

Not sure if it’s injuries or what, he appears to not have progressed at all in three years.

Wrist injury, mononucleosis
I assume you are referring to the story Baker floated last year (which wasn't verified by anyone at the Boston/SD ends)

of a proposed three-way with the Padres? No Lowrie, btw.

Churchill speculated that if it was true, the package would have been someting like 1 year of Adrian Gonzalez, plus Clay Buchholz, Nick Hagadone and Yamaica Navarro

Yup, that was the story. At that time, we didn't know if Felix was going to sign a long term deal here. I am glad they waited

till the off season and signed him. But had he not sign, we might not get that package of return in the off season.

Felix is under control for another four years and is way better.

It’s OK to pay money for actual superstars. That trade would have been bad.

I really, really don't like your thought processes.

What is to say we would have gotten these things?

If we had traded Jeremy Reed to Boston we would've received Jon Lester and Jonathan Papelbon.
Holy crap I remember this.
Ahem.

Gil Meche & Jeremy Reed, for Jon Lester or Jonathan Papelbon, if Finnigan was to be trusted

.

“It might be tough to get Lester or Papelbon,” a National League scout said. “Every team who has talked to the Sox about a deal has asked for one of them.”

While the Mariners are said to be more proactive in pushing a trade with Boston, they apparently are down on the Red Sox’s dance card. The Sox, in need of a shortstop as well as a center fielder, are reportedly focused on a multi-player deal with Tampa Bay

Where did you hear that? I doubt the Sox would trade Lester or Papelbon at any time during their career. Maybe when Lester was diagnosed with lymph cancer or something?
As I said, Finnigan in the Times

here. And as Finnigan quoted, the trade was thought to be unlikely.

Fuck that. Felix isn't going anywhere. Shame on you.
Clay Buchholz is not an ace.
Clay Bucholz has pitched like 60 less innings than Felix this year, has been worse, and is two years older than Felix.
Shit, I didn't realize he's older than Felix by almost 2 years. Never mind.
This has absolutely nothing to do with anything and is a topic that is over a year old and no longer interesting or relevant in any way.
You aren't even good at being controversial.
Note: SBN will be down for about half an hour around 11:30 or so
Uh oh. Not good at all.
Thanks for heads up Mr.Sullivan.
You've only lied to me once before, so I'm going to trust you on this one.
Guess I will be taking lunch early today
FUCK MY EYES WHY DIDN'T I SEE THIS BEFORE HAND
I'm surprised the chart didn't go down to 0.1 when the Angels scored
You should not be.

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